View Full Version : Sorry Nagg we tried !
Awoonga
16-12-2009, 08:39 PM
During the ABT Chris lost his Certate and Diablo outfit over the side. So today Danial and l tried in vain to recover it..The area was shallow but very weedy and about a meter of black silt on the bottom .Sorry mate it was to no avail. But that place now has a new name Naggs Bay.. On the way home we stopped for a bit of frogging . Lots of fun
'tis a cruel, cruel world indeed, and the barra just make it crueler lol
5Zigen
16-12-2009, 08:54 PM
Shame you guys couldnt find it, A+ for effort though:D Christmas spirit perhaps?:P
Was the fish in the pic caught on a frog Trev? I'm moving away from the Horny Toads a little....bought a few packs of the Strike King Rage Tails, these things really churn the water up!
Obi _ Wan
16-12-2009, 09:08 PM
That back must be feeling a lot better Trev???
Must have been good to get out though.
Did you survey the water surface before you went for the swim???
Perhaps you should have looked for the Lanolin slick on the surface first.
Cheers,
John.
Bear001
16-12-2009, 10:07 PM
were there tears? lol
I lost a rig overboard once, took a note of a landmark, then trolled sideways with the tackleback open to drag along the bottom - AND GOT IT BACK...YEAH.
Actually..make that twice...oops.
Sorry Nagg - my condolances!
Cind
Awoonga
17-12-2009, 12:19 AM
were there tears? lol
I lost a rig overboard once, took a note of a landmark, then trolled sideways with the tackleback open to drag along the bottom - AND GOT IT BACK...YEAH.
Actually..make that twice...oops.
Sorry Nagg - my condolances!
Cind
Cindy, tried that too much weed
Awoonga
17-12-2009, 12:22 AM
Shame you guys couldnt find it, A+ for effort though:D Christmas spirit perhaps?:P
Was the fish in the pic caught on a frog Trev? I'm moving away from the Horny Toads a little....bought a few packs of the Strike King Rage Tails, these things really churn the water up!
Yes l use a toad that has feet .... works well
Trev ......Thanks very much for your ( & Danial's) efforts - much appreciated. ( I did't hold too much hope after the first attempt ,,,,, 5feet of weed & 10foot of water)
Fortunately though it was only a spin outfit ;D ...... though one I was starting to enjoy using.
The pain has been eased somewhat when I picked up a new Certate 3500 (& spare spool) out of the states for around 50% of the local price:) .......
Now the hunt begins to find the ideal barra spin rod :P
chris
PS ..... thanks Cindy for your condolences
Whitto
17-12-2009, 06:30 AM
Trev ......Thanks very much for your ( & Danial's) efforts - much appreciated. ( I did't hold too much hope after the first attempt ,,,,, 5feet of weed & 10foot of water)
Fortunately though it was only a spin outfit ;D ...... though one I was starting to enjoy using.
The pain has been eased somewhat when I picked up a new Certate 3500 (& spare spool) out of the states for around 50% of the local price:) .......
Now the hunt begins to find the ideal barra spin rod :P
chris
PS ..... thanks Cindy for your condolences
I'm thinking Taylor Make Chris that way you have complete control of what your require.....and if turns out to be a shite rod you can then give it to me;D.
I'm thinking Taylor Make Chris that way you have complete control of what your require.....and if turns out to be a shite rod you can then give it to me;D.
Samurai reaction , Daiwa Steez ....... or custom:-/
Chris
Im eyeing off the Steez for being a good little boy this year
Im eyeing off the Steez for being a good little boy this year
Nice rods Brian (& reels) - though typically the landed price will be around the same as a Samurai Reaction here ......... which is better ?????? ..... both are excellent rods:P
Chris
warrior
17-12-2009, 03:19 PM
sorry to here you lost the favourate setupmate we all should get the area of trev as if we are lucky enough to find it for you there might be a bounty for us ;D did you try a sinker and hook setup trev and drag it ,nagg eric grell has just released his new barra rod and its supposed be to a real cracker ,he lives in the bay near us now so if you are interested i can get some details of it for you
SQUIDDA
17-12-2009, 03:39 PM
No worries Nagg.Might have another go next week.Has to be the worst dive i have ever done.Weed and Silt!!!Fish in photo above i caught on my new Wilson Live Fiber "Blade and Tails" Heavy.Very happy with it.
Cheers Dan.
Obi _ Wan
17-12-2009, 04:57 PM
Yes Chris i feel your pain,
A couple of years ago i was up the Pine River and was having a good time until i lost my Shimano Stella 2500 on a 7 foot T-CURVE rod.
What happened was, i had a few fish in the live well that needed some fresh water so i placed the rod in the rod holder and turned the pump on the refresh the water and i turned around just in time to see one of those large terns swoop in and grab thge plastic that was swinging about 18 inches down from the rod tip.
The bird just had enough power to lift the rod out of the holder and drop it in the water, mate i was shattered, over a thousand dollars worth of gear goonneee.
Three boats dragged grapple hooks for two days in the area, we pulled up plenty of old crab pot frames and other rubbish but no sign of my pride and joy.
I still get bad dreams about that mate so i can guess how you feel.
Cheers,
John.
Nice rods Brian (& reels) - though typically the landed price will be around the same as a Samurai Reaction here ......... which is better ?????? ..... both are excellent rods:P
Chris
Talking spin? I guess we're looking at the snapper range, #402 and #502, im not a fan of 2 piece sticks as you know mate :P
Im watching with interest, Im also on the hunt for the "perfect" spin stick, that suits my style.
Talking spin? I guess we're looking at the snapper range, #402 and #502, im not a fan of 2 piece sticks as you know mate :P
Im watching with interest, Im also on the hunt for the "perfect" spin stick, that suits my style.
My Samurai bc rod is also two piece .......... & it is simply the best barra rod I have owned or used.
I'm not sure if the spin rod is ...... joined at the butt section like the baitcaster ..... or a more traditional mid section join .
Chris
Yes Chris i feel your pain,
A couple of years ago i was up the Pine River and was having a good time until i lost my Shimano Stella 2500 on a 7 foot T-CURVE rod.
What happened was, i had a few fish in the live well that needed some fresh water so i placed the rod in the rod holder and turned the pump on the refresh the water and i turned around just in time to see one of those large terns swoop in and grab thge plastic that was swinging about 18 inches down from the rod tip.
The bird just had enough power to lift the rod out of the holder and drop it in the water, mate i was shattered, over a thousand dollars worth of gear goonneee.
Three boats dragged grapple hooks for two days in the area, we pulled up plenty of old crab pot frames and other rubbish but no sign of my pride and joy.
I still get bad dreams about that mate so i can guess how you feel.
Cheers,
John.
Hi John ....... there is no worst feeling than loosing an outfit over the side :( - this one - I tried to do it last year on the ABT tour ( at Awoonga) - but dove in and saved it .
This time ..... just knocked off those big flat decks that these glass bass boats have ...... and silently it sank into the abyss ....... :'(
Talking spin? I guess we're looking at the snapper range, #402 and #502, im not a fan of 2 piece sticks as you know mate :P
Im watching with interest, Im also on the hunt for the "perfect" spin stick, that suits my style.
I had a good look at the 402 today ...... & hung a 3500 Certate HD off it ........ very noice.
The join is just ahead of the 1 piece grip section ....... about 1/3rd of the rod length ( certainly no flat spots & no flex in the butt section) ...... well worth considering at under $500 from my little chinese mate in Sydney :P
Chris
t4topcat
19-12-2009, 09:55 PM
G'day Chris,
I'm running a Certate 3500 HD off the 502 which is nice and was considering the 402 as well next year (to go with either the TD Advantage 3500 or my other 3500 HD). The 502 is awesome and I expect the same of the 402.
Cheers
Chris
G'day Chris,
I'm running a Certate 3500 HD off the 502 which is nice and was considering the 402 as well next year (to go with either the TD Advantage 3500 or my other 3500 HD). The 502 is awesome and I expect the same of the 402.
Cheers
Chris
Thanks Chris
Going on my baitcast version .... It doesn't surprise me that you think highly of your 502 - they are certainly sweet , well made & functional rods.
Chris 8-)
To be honest, I would trade my 3500HD down a size to a 3000 for the right reel. I use it on an S10 and fits well with it, but the smaller body of a 3000 series with a longer handle than std would be more than a match for barra and still sit very nicely on the S10. I did have a 2500R on an Egrell S4 that, before going to the briny depths, was very useful in keeping a good barra sized jew from bricking me in the reef in 30m off tweed.
Kim uses a 2500R certate on her 4-7kg Pfleuger President. Seems to peform well.....right up until she lets them jump off!!
To be honest, I would trade my 3500HD down a size to a 3000 for the right reel. I use it on an S10 and fits well with it, but the smaller body of a 3000 series with a longer handle than std would be more than a match for barra and still sit very nicely on the S10. I did have a 2500R on an Egrell S4 that, before going to the briny depths, was very useful in keeping a good barra sized jew from bricking me in the reef in 30m off tweed.
Kim uses a 2500R certate on her 4-7kg Pfleuger President. Seems to peform well.....right up until she lets them jump off!!
The 3500 HD is a bit heavier & has a bigger handle than a std Certate 3500 - so it looks & feels bulkier .
The 3000 was pretty good (very good) but - IMO is was just a fraction small to balance out rods that had a longer split grip arrangement ( thats why I looked for a 3500)
No doubt that a 2500 would do the job ....... but for me , Nah!
Chris
LostNearBribie
21-12-2009, 05:43 PM
Nagg get an S-10 mate, perfect for the 3500.
Nagg get an S-10 mate, perfect for the 3500.
I've played with a few now .... including a split grip jobbie - - - IMO it feels a better snapper rod than barra
Chris
Here's a few pics of my S10 in action. It does it easy
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009028.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009028.jpg)
Another angle
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009027.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009027.jpg)
One more
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009031.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009031.jpg)
90'ish fish.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009038.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009038.jpg)
For hopping and rolling plastics around the weed edges it does a great job, a lighter outfit would possibly be better as the generally opens areas this style of fishing is employed affords a bit of security. The fish from the above pics was no horse but as most would agree, the 90cm class fish do punch pretty hard and play up a bit. This combo with 30lb whiplash braid and 40lb Penn 10X leader had this fish in the net in pretty quick time. Next trip we may get an opportunity to test it further with some heavy timber "Rumble in the Jungle", "knock down and drag out", "Stop it or Pop it" kind of antics....although I don't really think it suits that style of fishing.
Cheers, Rod.
Kimmy does good pics Roo, she has to much time on her hands and should be catching more barra!
You right about the 90+, they punch above their weight.
Here's a few pics of my S10 in action. It does it easy
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009028.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009028.jpg)
Another angle
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009027.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009027.jpg)
One more
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009031.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009031.jpg)
90'ish fish.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009038.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009038.jpg)
For hopping and rolling plastics around the weed edges it does a great job, a lighter outfit would possibly be better as the generally opens areas this style of fishing is employed affords a bit of security. The fish from the above pics was no horse but as most would agree, the 90cm class fish do punch pretty hard and play up a bit. This combo with 30lb whiplash braid and 40lb Penn 10X leader had this fish in the net in pretty quick time. Next trip we may get an opportunity to test it further with some heavy timber "Rumble in the Jungle", "knock down and drag out", "Stop it or Pop it" kind of antics....although I don't really think it suits that style of fishing.
Cheers, Rod.
Dont get me wrong Rod ..... the S10 is no doubt a capable barra spin rod - Though I'm looking for something a little more refined for potentially smaller presentations - but still be able to control a barra.
Its pretty easy to find a spin stick that will cast 110mm slick rigs & stop barra ....... but try to find one that can cast smaller flick baits & frogs well + have the lower down grunt to land a decent barra ...... then it become decidedly more difficult (specially if you want it as a true double hander).
Chris
Obi _ Wan
22-12-2009, 08:17 PM
Here's a few pics of my S10 in action. It does it easy
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009028.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009028.jpg)
Another angle
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009027.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009027.jpg)
One more
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009031.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009031.jpg)
90'ish fish.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/th_mcgloocharters2009038.jpg (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e351/orbyroo/McGloo%20Charters/mcgloocharters2009038.jpg)
For hopping and rolling plastics around the weed edges it does a great job, a lighter outfit would possibly be better as the generally opens areas this style of fishing is employed affords a bit of security. The fish from the above pics was no horse but as most would agree, the 90cm class fish do punch pretty hard and play up a bit. This combo with 30lb whiplash braid and 40lb Penn 10X leader had this fish in the net in pretty quick time. Next trip we may get an opportunity to test it further with some heavy timber "Rumble in the Jungle", "knock down and drag out", "Stop it or Pop it" kind of antics....although I don't really think it suits that style of fishing.
Cheers, Rod.
Hi Rod, Mate i have had an S10 for some time now, in fact i had it at Mondy for the winter committee meeting. I did a whole lot of question asking and looking around before i bought it.
I strapped a 4000 Stella on to it loaded with 20 lb Finns braid, used leaders from 30 lb through to 80 lb.
When used with slick rigs, hollow bellies its great, but i have a stack of baitcasters that do that, has a stack of power in the bottom end, great snapper rod but i must say that i am dissapointed with its performance with the lighter weighted lures.
The problem i have with its inability to cast light weights, don't get me wrong if i increase the lure weight it will throw it out of sight, coupled with the fact that the guides all go green when shown salt water, i fixed this by spraying with Lanox but then the metal ring on the large guide cracked and the insert fell out, great no more use on that trip. >:(
So there you go mate, maybe a year old and its costing me to have a part replaced and i can't throw light weights, its not what i wanted or thought i was getting and they are not what you would call a cheap rod. :'(
The blank appears to be a ripper and everything apart from the guides is well done, final assement, a great snapper rod. ;)
Naggers is right in my mind, you need that light,high action tip for flicking light weights but with a bottom third that has real balls.
Years ago a mate made me up a rod that was out of a Silaflex blank, extended the butt with another piece of glass and i could flick an unweighted bait (part fillet of sea gar) with 15 lb mono 30 odd yards, it was great for fishing the washes around the oceans rocks from the boat.
Cheers,
John.
I had a good look at the 402 today ...... & hung a 3500 Certate HD off it ........ very noice.
The join is just ahead of the 1 piece grip section ....... about 1/3rd of the rod length ( certainly no flat spots & no flex in the butt section) ...... well worth considering at under $500 from my little chinese mate in Sydney :P
Chris
Was yarning to a mate yesteday who gave them a wrap as well.
Was yarning to a mate yesteday who gave them a wrap as well.
One of the guys (Matt Murray) that stayed near us at Faust during the ABT used one ........ I think he hung a stella off it ------ It certainly felt like a sweet outfit & he gave it a big wrap too :P
No doubt worth careful consideration .......
Chris
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