There are better reels for casting slugs and poppers. If this is your preferred use for a reel. the baitrunner will do it after a fashion, but really too heavy and too slow a retrieve as a specialised reel for this. Best as a reel that will freely let line out when a tentative biter is taking a bait. Good for snapper and I reckon for Jew.
Tony
G'day
I run a 6500 on a wilson super snapper 8kg stick. It'd be about 6' and is spooled with 8kg platypus pink. I picked this up in great condition in the trading post fopr $150 about 3 years ago. It's served me very well and usually use it for my "floater" rod.
Dave
I also have a SHIMANO OCEANIA AERNOS XT 4000 with a snapper raider rod would this be better for slugs and poppers?Originally Posted by Tony_N
Chris
I haven't used the aernos and I am not an authority on reels- but it would be a LOT lighter and more comfortable to use as a spinning reel than the 6500 baitrunner. Depending on what you are targetting, it would be a pretty good spinning reel. Almost certainly underpowered for the bigger pelagics like mackerel and tuna, but fine for tailor unless you get a real snodger. Recommended line is 180m of 5kg and there are people out there fishing for these fish with that sort of thread, but I think I'd be wanting a better drag than provided by a $70-odd reel to be attempting this. 5.1 gearing would be just adequate I reckon. 800mm retrieve per turn is about minimum for fast spinning for mackerel.
Schrammy - these are just my opinions - check this stuff out at your tackle shop as well.
BTW I don't know the rod - but Snapper Raider sounds more like a bottom bouncing rod than a spin stick. For spinning I like to have a fairly medium-fast taper - fairly whippy at the end - but strong in the butt.I don't love it - but my current pelagic spin rod is a live Fibre 8ft 8-10 kg. The reel (which I do love) is a Daiwa Emblem Pro 5500. this reel has a retrieve speed of 122cm per crank and weighs 690 grams as against the baitrunners 870. Might not seem much difference - but if you do a lot of spinning you really notice it.
cheers
Tony
I purchases a baitrunner 6500b at BCF for $189 dollars and a ugly stick 7-10kg 7'6 platium rod for $80. You can get it cheaper at Amart ######### as they will price match BCF and further discount of 10%.. so say around $170 for the reel.
i've caught makeral and shark to 10kg on them.
Tony's pretty much summed it up in previous posts. If you intend using it primarily for casting slugs, a TSS4 would be a comparable reel to the 6500 in terms of quality, but obviously without the baitrunner option, and with a gear ratio of 5.8/1 compared to 4.2/1.
I'd say it's all down to what you're mostly going to use it for. I use either the 6500 or TSS4 on the same rod (the Live Fibre 7' 8-15Kg) depending on what I'm doing, and I find this works well.
Good luck,
Mike
Thanks mike for the info I think I will need to get 2 reel and the one rod for a all round set up, if anyone else has any advice feel free to drop me a line.
the 4500 baitrunner might be a better option, 4.8:1 ratio slightly higher than the 6500 and they're a nicely balanced reel and can still use it for floating
i have been quoted on the 6500 bait runner $180.00 the TSS4 $130.00 and the live fibre 7ft rod 10-15kg @ $200.00 are these prices any good or should I be looking else where?
Im considereing just to get a 6500 baitrunner combo for $239.00 with just a basic 10-15kg rod and upgrade when something goes snap ar breaks in the rod, as Shimano has a 10 year warrenty everything should be ok.
I already have a 4000series reel in the shimano range but need the 6500 baitrunner for the extra line capacity and the heavier set up for the bigger fish.
Prices for the reels are ok. Not doing you any favours on the rod though.
I already have a 4000series reel in the shimano range but need the 6500 baitrunner for the extra line capacity and the heavier set up for the bigger fish.[/quote]
the drag sytems are the same to my knowledge between the baitrunners, the 6500 does definately have more line capacity but if you wanted to use it for slugs also the 4500 BR would be a little more up to the task with its higher ratio
i have used both and do like the 6500 but id probably get the 4500, i opted for a tss4 in the end
model/line retrieve per crank inches/ line capacity/drag - br drag (lbs)/ ratio/ weight
BTR4500B 37 14/295, 17/250, 20/195 15.0 / 1.2 3 1 4.8:1 22.2
BTR6500B 36 20/270, 25/230, 30/185 15.8 / 1.2 3 1 4.2:1 30.7
br4500 is slightly faster and slightly lighter with the drag... holds about 70% of the line of a 6500
gbanger - those are great stats to have - but i don't get the weight:
30.7 what? ounces? thats just over a lb. I think which is 500grams - my 6500 box says 870grams. Or are my sums and conversions ballsed up?
Tony
As Heath has said, the Baitrunner's quite a good deal, and the TSS4 about as good as you'll get. The rod's a little bit expensive. I'd definitely stick with a 6500 as the extra line capacity could be the difference if you're onto something big - I went for this over the 4500 when I realised I couldn't swap the 4500 on to a lighter snapper rod (it didn't feel right), and I'm glad I did.
The rod's your call - it doesn't sound like anything special though, just be aware of that. I'm sure it will do a job of sorts, but might be tiring casting slugs all day with the TSS4 on.
I'm not sure you'll get a 10 year warranty on the rod, and even if you do, I'd imagine there's a fair amount of small print attached.
Good luck,
Mike
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