Bream frustration

[Just_chips]

I see your point Louis, but when was the last time that you got to watch in plain veiw (without polaroid glasses) a big bream come and check out your bait... It just doesn't seem to be quite the same, but thanks for the offer.

Certainly sounds like heart pounding stuff Nemo, persistance is the key, keep at it and sooner or later you will be able to fool that wiley ole bream

[1337]

Nitlon nitlon nitlon. Dont buy anything thing else in Aus... unless u can get jap fluro.

[Zeeke]

Apparently im a Bream legend... git stuffed Ian.. id rather catch real fish these days then play with bloody vermin! been there.. done that.. got bloody bored

Best trick for Bream.. if they dont take ur plastic, pull out a plastic explosive and drop it in the water with a lit fuse... they wont refuse after that!

Tim

[DICER]

I think that sometimes giving the fish more time to check out your lure may turn it of.

This makes it look like the lure is trying to escape and takes the decision time away from the fish. It must eat now or possibly miss a good meal.

Agree with first point, but the second "miss a GOOD meal" ha ha!!! yep in the frying pan

[Toppy]

I agree!
Toppy

[NeMo84]

yeh zeeke i know your probably sick of bream but i don't have a boat mate so i chase what i have a reasonable chance of getting you old fishing toff, don't knock the bream mate, i love em alright! and as for the plastic explosives well all i can say is got any for sale? haha but yeh louis i have more fun catchin em on plastics than bait to be honest, im goin again today(lucky me ) so i'll let ya's know how i go....Carlos

[raefpud]

yeah i also agree - keep the leader flurocarbon and as light as possible - the better fluro's are the jap ones - look for nitlon, siglon, yamatoyo, sanyo etc.

[Louis]

OK.

I stand Corrected.




Louis

[jsy_bean]

Hey nemo
I went fishin for bream the first time this weekend
we used 3inch hard body lures ,the advise that was given to me was get the cast in the right place the first time, leave it for a second then wind at a good pace if they are there they will hit , we were rewarded with around 10 bream, 1 at 40 cms and a couple just under that at 39 the rest were good at 30 plus. we never sore them aproach though just hit
I Never really believed in the plastic or hard bodied range of baits before but now i know how to use them, bring it on
Jsybean

[NeMo84]

mate a 40cm bream is a lovely specimen, well in mate and good on ya, i've had sessions like that in the past and i still remember em today, its great when they're playing the game/ on the chew, best of luck on future trips and welcome to the site

Carlos.

[Panda]

Just an observation on bream feeding patterns.

I used to have a small bream about 15cm in my fish tank. I converted him over to fresh water. Yes, they do quite well in fresh water. You can even catch them in the upper reaches in the fresh.

Anyway, I used to go down the swamp and catch the little guppies for him.
If he was hungry and hadn't had a feed for a while he would tear into them like a crazed mako. Even surface feeding on occasions. After he had consumed about a dozen he would go on killing for the fun of it. Pretty soon half the guppies would be lying dead on the floor and the rest would be trying to hide behind the filter. His technique would be -- grab the bait, crush the head, spit the bait, then proceed to devout it. You may notice this "double bight " pattern sometimes when fishing.

Over the next day or two, with his guts fairly full, he would cease to actively hunt the live bait and munch on the dead bait.
Then when all the dead bait had gone, or I had removed it to stop souring the water, he would start to actively hunt again when he got hungry. It was a regular occurrence to come out in the morning and find the plastic filter lying in the middle of the tank. Because he would bash it out of the way to get at the guppies hiding behind it. Oh, forgot to mention, he ate the wifes 4cm gold fish in the first week we had him.

Anyway, my theory on bream and lures is that they will smash a lure if they are hungry. But if their guts is full or nearly full they would much rather forage for easier food. Like, no fun doing a 100 meter sprint after a meal.

I've gone out and cleaned up on the Pikey Bream up here using hard bodied minnow lures. Other days they wont touch the same lure, but will readily take a bait drifted over the oyster rocks under a float. So what I am getting at is it just depends on the mood of the fish as to what will work best. If they are only following the lure, throw a dead bait in and a bight will be almost guaranteed.

[Sean]

Just Chips, If you really want that big fish and like the sight fishing here is my tip. Get a couple of bakery fresh loaves of bread. Anchor upstream from wherever the fish is. Tie a small long shank hook onto your mainline, the really fine guage ones, tear up 1 slice of bread into arond 8 pieces and 1 at a time (about 2 metres apart) Throw the bread out so it drifts on the surface back to the snag, once the fish are getting aggressive ( they hit the bread off the surface) rip 1 crust off a piece of bread and break the crust in 2. Thread your hook right through 1 side of your crust and pull the whole hook through. then at the other end of your bait thread it through and back out the same side so the shank lies flat on the crust with the point out, throw out a few more bits of burley and pick which fish you want to cast to. They absolutely smash it off the surface. Fish with bail arm open and let out free line and simply close the bail arm over once they have it. I might post a pic of the bait set up make it a bit more clear. It is fun though. 1 other thing, don't bother if the wind is up and the water isn't smooth, as soon as there are ripples on the surface the fish seem to stay down. Bread has to be fresh or it just comes off. Have a go, it is fun, Sean

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