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  1. #16

    Re: 4WD and city streets

    I have to agree with BEN. I truely believe that over the last 6 yrs or more of 4x4 ownership I've become a much better (skilled) driver. If you don't learn the limits of your vehicle, where various parts of your 4x4 extend to, etc in slippery, tight, scary 4x4 tracks - then you'd better get used to visiting the panel shop regularly (or the hospital).

  2. #17
    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: 4WD and city streets

    Don't worry about the 4WD drivers, try driving around Sunnybank any given day of the week. I almost get collected every time I drive through the place. I'm not racist, believe me, but bloody hell, where do Asian drivers get their licences????? Same place as Volvo drivers??????

  3. #18

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    i've driven in ASIA and CHAOS, but suprisingly safe (ish). I think all the crap drivers are sent here as punishment.

    Asians have to learn to sit back and relax - it really isn't safe with your chin on the steering wheel

  4. #19
    Ausfish Platinum Member
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    Yep more sensationalising by the media.
    What crap , if 50% want them banned then 50% don't want them banned.
    IF I did a survey amonst young people about banning people over 70 from driving I could probably get to 80 or 90 percent.
    Similarly with Asian drivers, Volvo drivers, trucks any bloody minority you care to mention. Drive anything you want.
    They only half valid point they make is that if a predestrian is hit by one, they have a lesser chance of survival. But I say if you are hit by a bus or truck or train, you have less chance again, why are they not talking about banninng them?
    Have times changed that much , when I was a kid I was taught to watch out for cars and only cross a road when it is safe. It used to be that if you were hit by a car it was most likely your own fault ( a few exceptions of course). Nowadays it seems the onus is on the driver. You know the "Look out, Look out there are children about" type campaigns.
    Is anyone telling the kids to watch where they are going??
    Maybe the world would be a safer place if people who got hit by cars through their own stupidity did NOT survive, and therefore were not able to pass their genes on to another generation of idiots. ???

  5. #20

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    good point Seahunt. Maybe by wiping these people out you get POINTS - sort of like a computer game, but a way of earning your license points back.


  6. #21
    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaHunt
    Yep more sensationalising by the media.
    What crap , if 50% want them banned then 50% don't want them banned.
    Over 50% of people wanted steam trains banned when they started going faster than horses and cars had to have some one with a red flag walking in front of them. It didn't stop the trains and cars started going that fast they ran over all the guys with the red flags. The shouting has just given the car manufactures the excuse to introduce new technologies that make more money for them. The All Wheel Drive, (AWDs) are more expensive to buy and as all the bush tracks are being made into super highways or closed, ground clearance is not an issue. Things are changing guys, they always have and always will.

    Land closure started in the 1600's when lots of common land became private property and the ordinary guys lost their right to use it. The same is happening now but for diffferent reasons.

    Lots of private owners and lease holders have had to close off their land because 4WD drivers can and will sue them if they damage their fourby or hurt themselves on their properties. Liability insurance reflects this trend as people continue to sue and get rewarded for what in some cases is there own stupidity. This is why roads are improving in national parks, giving more access to more people is a bonus for governments to crow about.

    Sea Hunt is also right about the stupid genes as more people gain access. More people with stupid genes gain access also and do stupid things, like shooting bulls balls off, knocking down lines of fence posts, the list goes on and on. However that allows the control freaks to inflict more controls on Mr and Mrs Average. Because of this people with stupid genes have become a protected species, they are not caught, caged or shot. Instead every one is restricted except those with stupid genes who go on to greater feats of stupidity whilst breeding copiously.

    Unless stupid genes are taken off the protected species list, they will continue to spread into the far corners of the world and every millimeter of land, air and sea will be heavily controlled. The time has come Ladies and Gentlemen to rid our selves of stupid genes go forth and exterminate. ER; just a minute while I have a gene check



  7. #22

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    Sea Hunt is also right about the stupid genes as more people gain access. More people with stupid genes gain access also and do stupid things, like shooting bulls balls off, knocking down lines of fence posts, the list goes on and on. However that allows the control freaks to inflict more controls on Mr and Mrs Average. Because of this people with stupid genes have become a protected species, they are not caught, caged or shot. Instead every one is restricted except those with stupid genes who go on to greater feats of stupidity whilst breeding copiously

    VERY WELL SAID - That should be made into an election speech

  8. #23
    nomad
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    Good on you Glug, I couldnt agree with you more. PREDICTION------ In years to come, 4 wheel drives will be locked up in a central SAFE AREAS, under STRICT, 24 HOUR, ARMED GUARD locations, out of the Suburban areas, which will have to be picked up DIRECTLY before going bush. (THERE IS NO NEED FOR 4 WHEEL DRIVES IN THE CITY, OR SUBURBIA,) ---- Does this ring a bell ????????.

  9. #24
    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomad
    (THERE IS NO NEED FOR 4 WHEEL DRIVES IN THE CITY, OR SUBURBIA,) ---- Does this ring a bell ????????.
    Heard it before, back in the dream time some where, along with government run car systems. Instead of pink slips you don't buy your own car, you lease one from the government and when a certain milage is reached it is recycled through the government agency. This way all cars will be safe from defects and polution will be controled by only giving large cars to large families. 4WDs and other specialised vehicles will only be issued to those who can prove they need the special features. There was a clause allowing private ownership to collectors. May be about Whitlams time in the 70s

  10. #25
    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: 4WD and city streets

    If they get there way and charge us extra for driving 4wd's it'll just be another cash cow for the Government. It's bazaare that they say 4wds hurt a lot more people in care accidents etc. yet youcould walk down the queen street mall late at late and get knifed and then be told you shouldn't have been on your own. ????????

  11. #26
    CHRIS_aka_GWH
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    Re: 4WD and city streets

    Quote Originally Posted by Glug

    ..., along with government run car systems. Instead of pink slips you don't buy your own car, you lease one from the government and when a certain milage is reached it is recycled through the government agency. This way all cars will be safe from defects and polution will be controled by only giving large cars to large families. 4WDs and other specialised vehicles will only be issued to those who can prove they need the special features. There was a clause allowing private ownership to collectors. ....

    "Oh Brave New World that has such wonders in it .. "
    Aldous Huxley 1932

    but on the [s]highways[/s] errr beaches, a new breed of warriors were born ...

    "Ya wanna get outa here - ya talk to me !"




  12. #27

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    A few questions for thought

    If you ban all 4WDs from city streets wont that make 2wds dangerous and we should ban them

    If you are worried about the weight lets have a look at prestige cars and touring cars most are as heavy if not heavier!!

    I can bet that the ration of cars vs 4wd's crashes are less even if you had equal of both.

    How many 4wd's are owned by the more mature rather than young fools

    Are these vehicals worth more than the average 2wd ie buying running costs etc......people normaly look after them more and therfore are more responible

  13. #28
    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: 4WD and city streets

    Send all new 4wd owners (eg soccer mums) into a under ground mine for a monthto pass the test if they dont hit the wall or 50 ton of truck let alone each other then let them on the road they will have a hole new respect for what their driving and how they drive it

  14. #29
    Sportfish_5
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    What mine do you work at notts_so ?

    Cheers

    Greg

  15. #30
    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Jul 2004

    Re: 4WD and city streets

    cant be to much wrong with the country if thats all they got for a story......what about the real issues ...... they dont get ratings

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