thanks roz and no the gym was not visited for @ a week after that beast. a mate a 2 days later invited me up for a jam on the strings at his place and after a few songs said you ate having trouble holding your guitar up there foocky and as he is not the least bit into fishing the story was not told and i just smiled and kicked back with a cold drink.a big 10 - 11 feet tiger gave me greif at 2am the other morning for 1 and a half hours on 45 shnieder and after fishing the rest of the morning i put a jetty pillow on the deck and had a 3 hour kip dog. jee we are keen some times or as others say raving mad.