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  1. #16

    Re: marlin damage

    Sorry to the people of aus chat. I said in the beginning I should not
    have posted it, This was the only way he might get the message without
    dobbing him in.

  2. #17

    Re: marlin damage

    Your 'mate' sounds like an arrogant idiot. He clearly has no idea what tag and release is all about. I'd be pretty surprised if this blokes ever seen a marlin. Sounds like someone having a stir to me, its too stupid to be anything else.

    Attached a picture of a marlin with a broken bill. The fish had been caught previously, it threw an old hook with 3ft of trace attached during the fight. I assume the bill damage occured at the same time.


  3. #18
    Ausfish Gold Member
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    Re: marlin damage

    "The term billfish encompasses two closely related families, the Istiophoridae: sailfish, spearfish, and marlins and the Xiphiidae, the swordfish. The term billfish is usually reserved for the istiophorids and call the only member of the family Xiphiidae, a swordfish. Both families of fish have members whose upper jaw is extremely elongated and narrow. These are all fast-swimming, aggressive fish in the open ocean with a tall dorsal fin and lunate (quarter moon shaped) tail. They have a unique circulatory system that keeps the warmth generated by their active swimming retained in the muscles. This makes their muscles slightly warmer than the surrounding water and gives them an advantage over the slower-moving, completely cold-blooded fishes. Most are tropical and subtropical in distribution but are often caught in temperate waters, especially in summer months.

    They are among the oceans fastest swimmers. Sailfish have been clocked at a minimum of 70 MPH for short bursts and probably cruise at 20 to 30 MPH. The long bill is thought to be a cutwater which aids these fish in very fast swimming. It is also used to decimate schools of fish by thrashing it back and forth horizontally through the water and is thought to be used in "battles" with other bill fish. The lunate tail and narrow, keeled peduncle (area just before the tail) are also adaptations for fast swimming. Even the dorsal and pelvic fins of the sailfish fit into neat grooves on the body to prevent any unwanted drag. Although marlin may be somewhat slower than sailfish, and swordfish slower yet, "slower" in this case is still close to 40-50 MPH."

    From, http://darter.ocps.net/classroom/klenk/Fish.htm

    Seems the bill is a much needed part of a marlin

    If this chap is cutting bills off with a hacksaw them mongrel is too nice a word > > > >

    Regards
    Seabug

  4. #19

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    I can't recall what channel I saw the program on a few years back but I do recall seeing footage of a marlin using its bill to attack a bait ball. The beak was swung side to side at it swam through the ball. The marlin then turned around and picked up the dead and injured bait. In that situation you could see where the bill is more useful than a single set bait.

    Evolution put the beak on there for a purpose. The guy is kidding himself to believe that you can remove something which is so specific to a species that evolution hasn't already determined provides that species a competitive advantage. Perhaps this guy is a God and has the right, but I think we can all agree, he is A god of di**heads.

    Just my 2 cents.

    Cheers

  5. #20
    Ausfish Gold Member
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    Re: marlin damage

    "Sorry to the people of aus chat. I said in the beginning I should not
    have posted it, This was the only way he might get the message without
    dobbing him in."

    Hi Tunaman

    Apologies are not needed.
    You are the one trying to do the right thing.
    But I would hope that this was the last chance he gets to change his ways.

    If he does'nt then RSPCA would clean him up.

    Regards
    Seabug

  6. #21

    Re: marlin damage

    the documentary "the blue planet" shows a bait ball and a few stripes using their bill.

    its a pretty awesome doco

  7. #22

    Re: marlin damage

    I was not going to say anymore, but I have been in this blokes house,
    and he is bounty hunter. The frist thing you will see is , all the heads
    of pigs, goats, foxies and gamefish, and wait untill he shows you his
    gun collection. I used to be a shooter my self and gave it away 15years ago, and he gets a pat on the back for killing feral pests and says he
    doesnt do the marlin thing anymore, I still dont beleve him totally.
    He reminds me of the great white bounty hunter of southafrica,s past.
    But I guest some of us old school blokes have the hardest times of getting with the new world.
    and he is a mate!


    signed tunaman

  8. #23
    Ausfish Premium Member
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    Re: marlin damage

    I own a copy of 'Blue Planet' and the stripes arent using their bills to 'whack' bait. There are a number of dvds out now days that show billfish feeding under water such as Wanganella Banks dvd and a number of the inside sportfishing series and none of these show any evidence of billfish clubing bait.

  9. #24

    Re: marlin damage

    Pointyfish!
    In all my time I have not seen a beakie slam the bait with its beak.
    I started with land based gamefishing back in 1982, and worked my way up just like a lot of people. Down the southcoast you have to crall befour you can walk! . And down the tubies or three graves or crocidilheads or beecroff,
    or what about THE EVE,ES!
    All pasted aside, I have cut my teeth on gamefishing a long time ago,
    hooked three black marlin down there on the rocks and landed not one!
    But to send out A big cow and young on a 14/0 gamehook with 1500
    dollars worth of game gear and to hang on to one of these great beasts
    is something else.
    But knowone has shown me anything diffrent.
    please come forward?



    sign tunaman

  10. #25

    Re: marlin damage

    And let us not forget the subject! What is the beak for!?







    signed tunaman

  11. #26
    Ausfish Premium Member
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    Re: marlin damage

    Its for holding onto whilest removing your hooks!

  12. #27

    Re: marlin damage

    What the f--k are you talking about ?
    We are talking about cutting the beaks of marlin. are we???????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????????
    Yes I have held on to some good beaks in my time , allmost bean stabbed throught the chest by at least one, but to all of us that know
    marlin can be dangerous, there is not need to be a trophy hunter.



    signed tunaman

  13. #28
    Ausfish Premium Member
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    Re: marlin damage

    Save your anger for your hacksaw mate.

  14. #29

    Re: marlin damage

    Save your anger on some spelling , my hacksaw mate has seen this!
    and he is getting some sh-t over this.
    P/S its a small world.





    signed tunaman

  15. #30

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    I think the point has been made
    Now I will drink to all, and fall down!................YEs

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