New Fishing Show

[Fitzy]

Hi Guys,
From my perspective, I can tell yas that the commercial channels may well be keen for some fishing shows but are unwilling to pay any sort of bucks for it. It would really need some rich bloke (with an ego that needs proping up) to do it, & then have they got the right stuff to be able to be on camera & the general knowhow/knowlege to pass on.
Sponorship, the way I see it is tantamount to propoganda. Once a sponsor is signed there will be the requirement to have more adverts & to push the sponsors product. Do you really want this rammed down your necks? Do you want to be told that brand X is the greatest, even if it's not?
In the current climate I can't see a new fishing tv show coming along that is gonna fit the bill.
Another thing to consider, if you were getting payed a paltry few hundred a week to be on a show, would you be willing to part with all of your hard earned knowlege & locations? Honestly?
And then once you've done it, they get to re-run it forever without you getting a cent.

For mine, I recon video is the way to do it. That's the avenue I'm wandering along. While I know a few of the guys on tele & think most of em are top folks, I still think that tv work generally is for suckers.

cheers,

fitz

[jaybee]

kewl reddog..maybe u can try pam thorpe at richlands..i think she is still in promotions??
good luck

[Derek Bullock]

Good thoughts, Fitzy.

The more I am finding out about this idea the more I am leaning towards the video idea myself.

Still if someone can come up with the formula for a TV program though I'll certainly do my bit with what time I do have.

Don't dispair though, you never know what's around the corner.

Cheers

Derek

[allen]

the question you have to ask is if you remove the larger than life identities and what are the ratings on fishing shows.
we here are all pretty keen anglers and devour anything that pops up on the box that even has a remote connection to fishing but the larger population who make the bulk of the viewers may not be so keen to tune in every week.
thats why fishing is usually included in bigger lifestyle progs like ET and such. also why cable runs them a lot becuase of their niche market strategies and the desperate need for content.

[Swampdogy]

Ok... well I am glad to see what all you fishing people have posted on this web site and I would like to get involved here with your thoughts but I have been a little worried as I see the name nugget as a moderartor and I do not want to upset him or anyone here. You see I am also known as Nugget and I am bringing out a new TV show titled Nugget's Get A LIfe series.
The reason I am called Nugget is because I played Nugget in all three Crocodile Dundee films. In my private life I am a fishaholic and I agree with what poppy and many of you had to say. I am going to use the character Nugget to present the show and the reason for this is so the TV stations will pick the show up because they see this as a way to promote the show and get what they want out of publicity. this gives them a front man/presenter as they often require.
My real name is Gerry and if I tried to put a show togeather
titled ( Gerry's fishing show) they would not even look at it.
We are filming at the moment and I always check what people are looking for in a show but I also have to think what the channel wants and attemt to get a happy compromise. Not easy I can tell you Once a show is on and it proves to get good ratings or is popular, a producer is allowed more room and I believe that should allow us to put more content in that the fishing people want... much like your messages so far. Trouble is that money makes the show possible in the first place and I can tell you it is not cheap to produce a show.
Even now my crew and I are working for nothing to produce the show because we believe that a new/fresh show is required and we also think we have something you may enjoy . It has been a battle to get sponsors without having them run the show.
I see that some people would like to take part in a program but I just had a fellow on the phone who said he would like to present something on our show, infact, he was going to teach Nugget how to fly fish and some of the basics. All of a suddun he wanted money to appear in the show ... how strange , I should have known . Now the Get A Life show is going to cover fishing, camping and traveling Australia. The first six are on Qld simply because I live here and it is cheaper for me to produce. My Character Nugget doe's not pretend to know everything and we want to talk and interview those that do it for real. If any of you are interested we would be happy to talk to you ... not as full time presenters but as fisherman. We do have a web site if you care to look at it. www.nuggetsgetalife.com Your comments are welcome and if we get this thing off the ground I hope you all like the show. There is a lot more I would like to say but I better wait to see what you people have to say first.
Sorry about my spelling but the wife aint here at the moment...she's digging worms for the next trip 8)
Good fishing and good luck to you all ... "Nugget"

[aquarius]

Hi Poppy
Great idea on a local fishing program.
i would like to see some indepth info on using and understanding sounders.
cheers Aquarius

[gunna]

I'd better have me two bob's worth also. As someone who has recently had a need to learn about a new area to fish as well as new techniques, I found a video on the subject invaluable. The problem I see with a regular series is that if you miss the bits that you are trying to learn, then the rest is no different from the Rex/ET etc shows - that is - shows about fishing - but not specifically what you need. Go with a couple videos that start for the absolute beginner then work up through the various types and styles of fishing. Same content but easier for the person who needs advice to get exactly what he wants. After all, thats how this post started - giving advice to others.

[imported_admin]

Gunna, like yourself and a few others I also think the video format would be a better idea. Maybe also to have sections of the video on the Internet as well so that you can come to the website at any time and watch the section of the video you need at that time withot having to go out and by the video.

The only downfall in video over the internet is the quality, speed, etc. Things like knots are near impossible to view on video over the net as they are in a smaller format and the line dissapears on the screen, but I am sure we can work out a way around it.

Good general tips and info wouldn't be a major problem though, such as how to throw a cast net. Text and pictures can do a lot to help explain some things but video does make it a lot easier to understand.

There is still the same amount of time and effort involved in putting together a video compaired to a TV show. You end up in a similar situation where you need sponsors to help fund it but not to the same extent as money is earned from the sale of the video.

The big question is, what do you want on the videos or think other people would want on the videos. If you can give some specifics maybe we can get the ball rolling. We have all the gear to put the videos together just sitting here, Video Cameras, Radio Mics, Lighting, Editing Suite, etc, etc. I know several people that would be good on camera and have all the answers in their head. All I need is a list of what you want. If you could E-mail me video@ausfish.com.au some specifics I can compile all the suggestions and get the ball rolling.

Most likely some of you reading these posts have some good ideas and the knowledge to share and would like to be on some of the videos giving out that knowledge, if so, E-mail me and give me some details.

Anyway, we could complain and comment about there not being anything out there that we like untill the cows come home, or we can get together and do something about it.

Steve Brown
Owner
Ausfish.com.au

[Derek Bullock]

Great stuff, Steve. Check your email.

I think we might be on a winner hear guys and girls. Let Steve know what you are prepared to do.

Steve, how about we give a weeks notice and set a date and time on the live chat so that everyone can join in a good discussion.

Cheers


Derek

[Heath]

Excellent Idea Derek!!!

[Cremated_Reddog]

Yep I agree Steve and with you Derek, a video would be more (benefishal) to us all. I'd be willing to move up there just to help out with it.. Have had lighting and sound experience from doing stage management in prior jobs..
anyway you know where to find me if you want me....


Oh and Nugget if you need a gaff taper let me know I'd be more than willing to come up and do it...



Reddog

[PAYNE]

Videos and T.V. shows all cost money to produce. I know of several programmes who have the timeslots available but they just need to raise the cash to have the shows produced. Other programmes which are on the cards also require funding. I have been approached by no fewer than five shows since Hooked on Water finished but without the funds, you haven't a show.
As for "personalities, gurus etc", that's what the viewer may see them as. I have met most of these so called "gurus" and they are the best bunch of fellas to fish with and don't deserve the ribbing they get!
As for getting paid to be a presenter, in the end, it's just a job. You still have the stresses of maybe not catching a fish, the weather turning foul and a producer who wants you to catch a tailor when there are 3m seas and a 30knot south-easterly wind blowing.
Actually, it is not all as cut and dried as most viewers may think and there are a tonne of variables to take into account.
If you have an unlimited supply of money - go for it. Believe me, there are a heap of pilots being made at the present and most of them aren't going to make the cut.
Good luck but be prepared to do the hard yards and be prepared for a heap of disappointment!

[benny]

Derek Briz31 did a half decent job with the BikeShow. I'm shore if they applied the same format they would have a sucestfull show.

[poppy]

Hi to everybody that answered my post on "New Fishing Show". There are several reason's I did the post in the first place.

I really do think there is a need for more info for the average fishy type and this is not discounting the need for the big boats in great locations. There have been requests for several things in the replys and some of them were simple requests for using a cast net and the like.

One thing I have learnt in my life so far is the need for a lot of people to see pictures instead of words. The old addage, "A picture is worth a thousand words" is very true.
How to get this information to the general fishing public is not an easy task.

One of the best examples of this is the "Super Tank" that I saw at the recent Brisbane boating and Fishing Show. I learn't a lot from the fine talents of the two gentlemen demonstating different cast and retrieve styles. The important thing I saw was how fish reacted to different lures.
This would be great on a video especialy done in Qld where the travel and tourism industry could possibly be interested in sharing some of the cost.

I noticed one reply was concerned about the fact that people would not readily give away there secret places. I don't blame them one iota for that but, you really only need to show a similar example not the exact place. I have a smile on my face seeing 200 guys in tinny's all turning up to somebody's favourite fishing haunt. It would be like that scene out of Jaws where every body wants to catch the shark.

The other thought I had was maybe an existing show would be interested in reading all the posts that have been sent in. It could be a bit of an eye opener for them. How are they able to judge what to do if nobody ever gives them new suggestions or ideas. Maybe they could even lengthen their show to a whole hour, that would be a bonus in iself.

Cheers Poppy {or Pete)}

[Fitzy]

Hi Poppy,
I tested that theory out a few years ago. I printed the location of one of the FADs that are in Somerset & the following weekend there was around 20 boats sitting on it. The weekend before it was published there was nobody on that area of the lake.
We moved it to another location shortly after wards.

Cheers,

Fitz