Unknown Wreck

[jaybee]

This is a test for the older guys cause i cant remember it (prob from old age)..apparantly an old barge went belly up not far from the mouth of the river...just like in the movies the rescue teams cut the bottom out to get to the survivors but a few drowned ..anyone know where this wreck is..apparantly it is the ducks nuts for bream...it was brought to my bros attention by somone while up mooloolaba last year
cheers.
ps i know i can contact the qld tpt but i thought this would make interesting conversation.

[Nugget]

Hi Jaybee
You'll have to give us a little more detail.
Here is a list of wrecks that I know of (and nowhere near complete!) in the Brisbane River.

Name Year Month Location Comments
Ann 1864 May Brisbane River -
Ann 1876 Sep Brisbane River -
Beatrice (Beautrice) 1896 Oct Brisbane River -
Benower 1888 Jul Brisbane River South Brisbane
Boyne 1973 Mar Brisbane River -
Captain Cook 1903 Feb Brisbane River -
Chesterfield 1913 Oct Brisbane River -
Cormorant 1956 Apr Brisbane River -
Eclipse 1937 Nov Brisbane River Bremer River
Elamang 1893 Feb Brisbane River Flood
Experiment 1848 Jan Brisbane River Queens Whf
Fairy 1875 Apr Brisbane River -
Fanty 1978 Jul Brisbane River at Mt Ommany Reach
Flirt 1889 Mar Brisbane River -
Flora 1888 Apr Brisbane River Victoria Bridge
George R Crowe 1887 Jan Brisbane River Bridge Reach
H.M. Customs Launch 1932 Jul Brisbane River -
H.R. Crowe 1887 Jan Brisbane River Fisherman's Island
Iona S.S. 1889 Aug Brisbane River -
Kangaroo 1889 Jun Brisbane River -
Kansas 1924 Apr Brisbane River -
Kate 1890 Nov Brisbane River Bar entrance
Leichhardt 1901 - Brisbane River -
Leisure Hour 1869 Jan Brisbane River on the bar
LFB-64 1944 Dec Brisbane River -
Lucinda S.S. 1896 Feb Brisbane River Bishop Island
Mabel 1903 Nov Brisbane River -
Marble 1912 Jun Brisbane River Garden Point
Mary 1900 Dec Brisbane River -
Moreton 1934 - Brisbane River Bishop Island
Mount Elliot 1939 Jan Brisbane River -
Mount Kembla 1914 - Brisbane River opposite Bulimba Point
Natone 1893 Feb Brisbane River Flood
Paluma 1893 Feb Brisbane River Flood
Pearl 1896 Feb Brisbane River -
Phyllis 1963 Jul Brisbane River -
Renard 1894 Jan Brisbane River Solitary Island
Roderick 1914 - Brisbane River Bishop Island
Schnapper 1863 Mar Brisbane River -
Susan Francis 1884 Sep Brisbane River -
Swallow 1855 Aug Brisbane River -
Sylvane 1902 Jun Brisbane River -
Tadorna Radjah 1893 Feb Brisbane River -
Tyra 1879 Dec Brisbane River -
Warrego 1906 - Brisbane River -


Dave ><>

[jaybee]

Thanks nugget will try and find out more I think from what my bro said it would be during the sixties he was working at QLD fish markets but didnt say if he was in Brisbane or Colmslie the markets moved there I beleive in 68/69..geez you are a walking history book..have you fished any or most of these listed ??

[gruntahunter]

Well I'll be! Are all these wrecks still in the river and not been removed? Obviously the salt water has done her job with a lot of them, but I find it hard to believe there is that many that have been left on the bottom.

[jaybee]

Mystery solved the wreck is the captain neilson..was put onto a guy in mineral house and he was very helpful..to get a rundown on historical wrecks one needs to contact the RAN. Hey nugget i was telling him about the list you passed on, he asked for a copy of the list as their records only go back something like 30 years. He is going to get back to me so if you like I will pass your name onto him or his name onto you.
cheers.

[jaybee]

Just received a reply from RAN...it has been passed onto the historical side of things to do with the navy. Apparantly there is some WW11 stuff in the bay that we don't know or shouldn't know about mmmm..however i did recieve some feedback on the phone that some historical wrecks are okay to dive on or anchor beside but you are not allowed to fish on...the plot thickens..will keep you all informed
cheers.

[webby]

The capt neilson is no where near the brisbane river, have fished it a few times, just ask Phill. try about 20miles east over near the four beacons.
regards

[jaybee]

i know this brian..but the guys who gave the info to my bro said it was in or near the mouth of the brisbane river..hate to have to walk the difference..they were just a little off eh...LOL..but then they were from NSW and might have been a little drunk ...what you think LOL

[Nugget]

Hi Jaybee
Pass my name on by all means - I'll talk wrecks till the cows come home!

Dave ><>

[Nugget]

Hi Gruntahunta
As far as records go - there has been no salvage of the wrecks listed.
So they, or part of them, is still there.
The best way to find accurate info is to go through the newspaper archives at the time of the wreck.
That is where you'll get the most detail - unless somebody has researched it and is prepared to give you the information!

Dave ><>

[gruntahunter]

Thanks Nugget, I really do find it amazing that there is that many boats in the bottom of the drink..... were they that bad of navigators, and so many of them , that recently?

[jaybee]

The guy i got onto about the wreck which turned out to be the neilson also gave me the name of the guy who owned and run the salvage operation and how he is now retired up airlie beach way and his sons now run the business..he couldnt spell his name properly and I havent been able to find it on the net..joe screwder or something like that

[jaybee]

Well the RAN replied to my email. The captain Neilson was lost on the 18/09/64 with 9 lives lost. And the database for historic wrecks is managed by the Western Australia Maritime Museum.
http://dbase.mm.wa.gov.au/Shipsearch.html


cheers.

[Dodgy_Back]

I found this thread while doing a search. so sorry for such a late reply ?

The salvage operator was a guy named Joe Engwirda and your right he is retired up at airlie beach and his salvage business still runs under his Son's management.
He and the police diver involved both won the "george Medal " for bravery during that rescue.
He is a personal friend of ours and has told me a few stories of the salvages he has done over the years.

A very unique job being a salvage diver and his health has suffered for no doubt being under water for so many years.

Just had to reply even though this was such an old post.

Cheers

Mick

[theoldlegend]

Hey Nuggett,

Are you sure the Lucinda SS went down in February 1896 at Bishop Island?

I thought it was March 1896.

The only reason I'm questioning you is that I can recall being at a party with the Breaka Girls on Bishop Island when she went down. Pretty sure it was March......

About the eighteenth from memory.


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