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    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Apr 2002

    EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    curious on others opinion of live fish export. I personally think that the other countries are getting the best quality fish and we're left with 2nd grade fish.(not that i buy fish from the shops any way) Also if were sending our breeding stock over there whats stopping them from putting a small percentage in ponds and breeding the fish them selves?

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    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    They are getting the best quality fish as they are prepared to pay the top $$'s.

    It's not that we are left with 2nd grade (as such) it's just that where the market is aligned.

    Most (not all) fish shop type fish (fish and chips type) isn't even 2nd grade as it tends to be imported from overseas.

    Cheers, Kerry.

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    Ausfish Addict
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    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    On a brighter note if we let sea cage farms in moreton bay, all the diseased fish (nutrients, antibiotics etc) they breed will go overseas, but then it will wreck the bay. I love sea mullet roe, you cant buy it here anymore, the fish are sexed on the beach and put into an appropriate esky, the yanks pay upwards of sixty a kilo for it, we can get the rejects, all broken and discoloured for around 38 a kilo, like my sister did from raptis last year and ended up very sick, wont say anymore.
    cheers.
    joe.

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    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    Hi Angelena
    As and ex-Butcher you are right it is the same as the Quality of the meat here we only see the Second Grade in which most Quality Butchers sell as top grade meat the reason for this is that the oversea markets pays more but like anything that goes oversea's it is not the Farmer or the Grazier that ripes the rewards it is the middle man and the Government and so it is with the exporting of our natural resoucers

    There is a saying
    That man will not be happy till he kills the last fish;
    Cuts down the last tree;
    Kills the last Animal;
    and destroys the Earth completely
    then and only then will man realize that he can not eat the money that he has made by then it is to late

    Cheers
    Steve

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    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    Steve, it sounds as if you're a bit of an alarmist. I heard that saying about 25 years ago, and there's still plenty of fish, animals, and trees. And here in the states the air and water keep getting cleaner thanks to the combination of regs and technology. Mother earth will be just fine, with or without us.

    Scottie

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    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    Hi Scottie,
    Mate I would have to disagree with you. I live on Cape York. Right at the top of the pointy bit of Australia. This is supposedly a pristine wilderness that is untouched. How wrong we are.
    Let me give a few examples that I have observed.
    The amount of rubbish that is washing up on our beaches is amazing. Apart from the bottles, tins, discarded nets etc we also have industrial waste. Tonnes of rubber which has had thongs stamped out of it, bundles of nylon bags, rusting 44 gal drums.
    At the camping spots are dozens of 44 gal drums that tourists bring up with fuel in them and leave behind when empty.
    Indigenous fishermen waiting for turltes to walk up the beach to nest, wait for the turtle to lay its eggs, grab the turtle and the eggs.
    Mining that is taking place in Papua New Guinea is starting to affect the water quality in the Torres Strait
    I could go on and on, the earth is not in good shape and we are slowly choking it to death
    Cheers from paradise
    Dazza

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    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    I agree with Dazza. We have 400 reefs along our coast in a supposed world heritage area (the Great Barrier Reef) at high risk, many of them already dead.
    Look at the oil spill in Spain.
    Our seas in many areas are treated as giant rubbish dumps. Out of site, out of mind.
    Technology and education has the potential to win this back and save some of these ecosystems but we are fighting against those who do not care and think money is more important.
    Vern

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    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    Guys, I'm not saying there aren't problems that need to be addressed, just that the earth will find a way to take care of itself even if we mess it up. As for all the crap that's happening in your neck of the woods (Cape York), it's time for you to go after the polluters and poachers. (It's interesting to note that the worst pollution in todays world tends to come from the third world, non-democratic nations, not the freedom loving capitalistic ones). And I'm certainly not suggesting Australia is one of those nations, but you have plenty of them to the north. While oil spills are an awful thing, the sea has a way of cleaning them up much faster than the scientific community ever thought possible. Remember the Exxon Valdez? The scientific community was amazed at how quickly the earth/sea dealt with it. Please don't get me wrong, I dislike garbage and excessive pollution as much as you. I also happen to think that it is a bit arrogant of people to think that humans can destroy the earth. Being the giant living organism that mother earth is, when she gets tired of us she'll kick our sorry a$$es right off this planet. Or at the very least, significantly reduce our numbers. Plague, volcanoes, earthquakes, ice, and just about anything else she can throw at us during a renewal process.That you can count on.
    Vern, the money that is generated in the capitalist nations of the world is the same money that can help cure these problems through education, legislation, and science & technology. These of course, are my opinions only.

    Cheers, Scottie

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    Ausfish Platinum Member
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    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    Hey Scottie,mate do you still believe in the tooth fairy too ?

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    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    Hey Banshee, why don't you debate me instead of attack me with that tooth fairy crap. But for the record, yes, I do believe in the tooth fairy.

    Scottie

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    Ausfish Platinum Member
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    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    "The earth will find a way to take take care of it self even if we mess it
    up"....."While oil spills are an awful
    thing,the sea has a way of cleaning them up much faster than the scientific community ever thought possible." Taken out of context?.....
    I think not.Your first statement is pure drivel (Bullshit) it defies comment.I can however see merit in your second statement,should mother earth get all her feathered and furry
    aquatic freinds to swim through it,she
    can clean it up 1 kilo at a time.Mate
    I'm sorry for taking the piss out of you
    but your comments left me gobsmacked.Never mind though your in for a real treat.....santa is coming.



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    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Oct 2001

    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    Banshee, you're still attacking me. Why would my first statement defy comment? Can't get your mind 'round it? The earth cleaning itself up? It actually happens, pally. My bottom line is that humans can only do temporary damage to the earth. In the end; earth wins.
    As for Santa, it means nothing to me, I'm a Jew. And as a Jew, I'm used to being attacked. Got more, pally?

    Scottie


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    Ausfish Platinum Member
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    Aug 2002

    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    Your comments lack fact.You do not
    even supply anecdotal evidence to back your pie in the sky claims.At best
    your comments reveal a missinformed
    view,at worst I see your comments as
    foolish.I am afraid you have said nothing to convince me otherwise.I have nothing more to say on the mater.

  14. #14
    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Apr 2002

    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    sh## i just posted under my girlfriends name

    yeah it sux how our best fish are sent over seas. i think if you want to eat fish you should have to catch it your self.
    and im sorry guys but i have to agree with the yank. the earth is 46,000,000 (i think thats the right amount of zeros, 46 mil) years old and we are but 40,000yr old. thats 0.08%. you can rest asured that even if we cover the earth in a nuclear winter, it will be but a short hiccup for the planet. global warming (weather or not we are the cause) is not a new issue. it is not the planet that is in danger. it is its inhabidants (us). the earth will outlive us, guaranteed

    mick

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    Ausfish Platinum Member
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    Aug 2002

    Re: EXPORT OF LIVE FISH

    Mick,The earth is actualy a lot older than you claim.A look through Australian National University and other uni sites will show that it is an
    excepted fact that life began on this
    planet 3,800 million years ago, in what is known as the Archaen Period.
    The cells occuring then are the same
    as the cells that compose every living
    being that inhabits the earth today,us included.So I put to you that we have infact evolved over this same period of time.Another undisputed fact,is that our sun will becom what is known as a red giant some time in the next 50 to 200 million years.With most of the solar
    systems life spent the argument of
    rejuvination is mute.The end can never justify the means.I know I said
    I would shut up......sorry.

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