new bag limits

[mackmauler]

does anyone know of a complete list of "coral reef fin fish" as i have looked through the new rules and came to the... NB:FOR ALL OTHER CORAL REEF SPECIES, A TAKE AND POSSESSION LIMIT OF 5 APPLIES. does this mean bream at peel island living in the coral ???

[Lucky_Phill]

NO

[Lucky_Phill]

here is a direct link for the info

http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/fishweb/11379.html

[Lucky_Phill]

Attachment A: Size and take and possession limits
No-take species
The following species are protected and are not included in any size or take and possession limits:

Maori wrasse
Barramundi cod
Potato cod
Queensland groper
Red bass
Chinaman fish
Paddletail
Size Limits
All coral reef fin fish species have a minimum size limit of 25cm unless otherwise specified (see below):

All tuskfish 30cm
All jobfishes, red throat emperor, long nose emperor 38cm
All cods, gropers and coral trout 38cm
Exceptions
Greasy rockcod 38cm to 100cm
Flowery cod 50cm to 100cm
Camouflage rockcod 50cm to 100cm
Maori cod 45cm
Blue spot trout 50cm to 80cm
Nannygai (small and large mouth) 40cm
Spangled emperor 45cm
Red emperor 55cm
Fusilier No limit


Note: Jobfishes = crimson jobfish (rosy jobfish), flame snapper, goldband snapper, green jobfish, lavender jobfish, ruby snapper, small- toothed jobfish.

Take and possession limits
All coral reef fin fish species have possession limits of five unless otherwise specified (below):

Combined limits:
Cods and gropers 5 in total of all species
Tuskfish 6 in total of all species
Coral trout 7 in total of all species
Nannygai 9 in total of all species
Species specific limits:
Crimson jobfish (rosy jobfish), Red throat emperor 8 per species
Hussar 10 per species
Fusilier No limit
Total combined limit 20 coral reef fish in total

[Lucky_Phill]

Recreational :- Fish must be kept whole or gutted and gilled. However a fish may be filleted if the fillet is >40cm. The entire skin unscaled must remain on the fillet.

[mackmauler]

thanks Phill, so that list is all coral reef fish that are covered by limits? i think yes... they did say for *all* other coral reef species 5 fish limits, still dont know if that means everything in grants guide maybe reading to much into it ???

[Lucky_Phill]

(4) If a coral reef fin fish taken from a boat is filleted ashore, the fisher
must not return a fillet from the fish to a boat unless—
(a) the length of the fillet is at least 40 cm; and
(b) skin and scales are attached to the fillet.
Maximum penalty—100 penalty units.
(5) The fisher must not put a coral reef fin fish, that is whole or gilled and
gutted, into cool storage unless a pectoral fin has been removed from the
fish.Maximum penalty—100 penalty units.
Example of cool storage—
a cooler or refrigerator
(6) For subsection (5), the pectoral fin must be removed from the fish
after it has died and before it is put into cool storage.

Now here's and interesting part of the legislation.

cheers Phill

[Lucky_Phill]

Coral Reef fin species are the species found in offshore waters, mainly.

Bream, Flathead, Whiting, Grunter, Snapper, Pearlies. etc are NOT Coral fin fish. If it's not listed in the regs, it ain't Coral Fin Fish.

I know the regs are going to confuse the %$#K outta people.

The info leaflet is out in tackle shops now, apparently.

My Advice........get one !

Phill

[Lucky_Phill]

Yes people, you read it right above.

As of 13th December, you basically have to cut off the Pectoral fin of any reef fish you want to put in your esky.

I believe this is designed to halt a process in the black market.

Cheers Phill

[gif]

Good Posts Phil - thanks.


Actually - there is some fine print beyond the brochures and press releases that Phil has kindly explained above.

Schedule 2 of the new Act has all the defined species. There are more in the Act than the brochures. The new brochures are at all tackles shops now - so pay a rainy day visit and pick one up

I will dig it out tonight for all to see - plus the location of the Act for those interested.

Bottom line - there are too many species to remember - SO just cut the side fin - pectoral fin on any possible reef type fish

Gary.

[gif]

Hi - as promised .....the full definintion of Coral Reef Fish

Under the FISHERIES (CORAL REEF FIN FISH) MANAGEMENT PLAN 2003



SCHEDULE 2
CORAL REEF FIN FISH
sections 6(1) and 156(4), definition “group of species” and schedule 8,
definitions “coral reef fin fish”, “species of cod or groper”, “species of
emperor”, “species of parrotfish, surgeonfish or sweetlips”, “species of
tropical snapper or seaperch” and “species of wrasse”

Common name Scientific name
cods and gropers
areolate rockcod Epinephelus areolatus
barramundi cod Cromileptes altivelis
bar rockcod Epinephelus ergastularius
blacksaddle rockcod Epinephelus howlandi
black-tipped rockcod Epinephelus fasciatus
blue-lined rockcod Cephalopholis formosa
blue Maori Epinephelus cyanopodus
blue-spotted rockcod Cephalopholis cyanostigma
brown-barred rockcod Cephalopholis boenak
camouflage rockcod Epinephelus polyphekadion
chinaman rockcod Epinephelus rivulatus
comet grouper Epinephelus morrhua
coral cod Cephalopholis miniata
coral rockcod Epinephelus corallicola
dothead rockcod Cephalopholis microprion
dwarf spotted rockcod (wire netting
rockcod) Epinephelus merra
eight bar grouper Epinephelus octofasciatus
flagtail rockcod Cephalopholis urodeta
flowery cod Epinephelus fuscoguttatus
four-saddle rockcod Epinephelus spilotoceps
greasy rockcod Epinephelus tauvina
hapuku Polyprion americanus and Polyprion
oxygeneios
hexagon rockcod Epinephelus hexagonatus
leopard rockcod Cephalopholis leopardus
longfin rockcod (honeycomb
rockcod) Epinephelus quoyanus
Maori cod Epinephelus undulatostriatus
oblique-banded grouper Epinephelus radiatus
peacock rockcod Cephalopholis argus
potato cod Epinephelus tukula
Queensland grouper Epinephelus lanceolatus
redmouth rockcod Aethaloperca rogaa
six bar rockcod Epinephelus sexfasciatus
six spot rockcod Cephalopholis sexmaculata
snubnose rockcod Epinephelus macrospilos
speckled-fin rockcod Epinephelus ongus
speckled grouper Epinephelus magniscuttis
strawberry rockcod Cephalopholis spiloparaea
thinspine rockcod Gracila albomarginata
tomato rockcod Cephalopholis sonnerati
trout cod Epinephelus maculatus
white-lined rockcod Anyperodon leucogrammicus
white-spotted rockcod Epinephelus caeruleopunctatus

coral trout
barred-cheek coral trout Plectropomus maculatus
chinese footballer (blue spot trout) Plectropomus laevis
coral trout (leopard trout) Plectropomus leopardus
coronation trout Variola louti
highfin coral trout Plectropomus oligacanthus
lyretail trout Variola albimarginata
squaretail coral trout (passionfruit
trout)
Plectropomus areolatus

emperors
big-eye bream Monotaxis grandoculis
collared sea bream Gymnocranius audleyi
gold-lined sea bream Gnathodentex aureolineatus
Japanese sea bream Gymnocranius euanus
lancer Lethrinus genivittatuslong-nosed emperor Lethrinus olivaceus
Mozambique large-eye bream Wattsia mosambica
orange-striped emperor Lethrinus obsoletus
pink-eared emperor Lethrinus lentjan
red-eared emperor Lethrinus rubrioperculatus
Robinson’s sea bream Gymnocranius grandoculis
spangled emperor Lethrinus nebulosus
spotted sea bream Gymnocranius sp.
sweetlip emperor (red-throat
emperor)
Lethrinus miniatus
thumbprint emperor Lethrinus harak
variegated emperor Lethrinus variegatus
yellowlip emperor Lethrinus xanthochilus
yellow-spotted emperor Lethrinus erythracanthus
yellow-striped emperor Lethrinus ornatus
yellow-tailed emperor Lethrinus atkinsoni

fusiliers
fusiliers Caesio spp. or Pterocaesio spp.

parrotfishes
bicolour parrotfish Cetoscarus bicolor
bumphead parrotfish Bolbometapon muricatum
miscellaneous parrotfish Scarus spp. surgeonfishes
surgeonfishes Acanthurus spp.
unicornfish Naso spp.

sweetlips
miscellaneous sweetlips Plectorhinchus spp.
painted sweetlips (slaty bream) Diagramma spp.

tropical snappers and sea perches
bigeye seaperch Lutjanus lutjanus
black and white seaperch Macolor niger
black-spot snapper Lutjanus fulviflamma
bluestripe seaperch Lutjanus kasmira
brownstripe seaperch (brown
hussar) Lutjanus vitta
chinamanfish Symphorus nematophorus
crimson jobfish (rosy jobfish) Pristipomoides filamentosus
crimson seaperch (small mouth
nannygai) Lutjanus erythropterus
dark-tailed seaperch Lutjanus lemniscatus
five-lined seaperch Lutjanus quinquelineatus
flame snapper Etelis coruscans
goldband snapper Pristipomoides multidens and
Pristipomoides typusgreen jobfish Aprion virescens
hussar (pink hussar) Lutjanus adetii
lavender jobfish Pristipomoides sieboldii
Maori seaperch Lutjanus rivulatus
midnight seaperch Macolor macularis
moses perch Lutjanus russelli
onespot seaperch Lutjanus monostigma
paddletail Lutjanus gibbus
red bass Lutjanus bohar
red emperor Lutjanus sebae
ruby snapper Etelis carbunculus
saddletail seaperch (large mouth
nannygai) Lutjanus malabaricus
sailfin snapper Symphorichthys spilurus
small-toothed jobfish Aphareus furca
spanish flag (stripey) Lutjanus carponotatus
yellow-margined seaperch Lutjanus fulvus

wrasses
anchor tuskfish Choerodon anchorago
blackspot tuskfish Choerodon schoenleinii
blue tuskfish Choerodon cyanodus
grass tuskfish (purple tuskfish) Choerodon cephaloteshogfish Bodianus spp.
humphead Maori wrasse Cheilinus undulatus
redbreasted Maori wrasse Cheilinus fasciatus
tripletail Maori wrasse Cheilinus trilobatus
venus tuskfish Choerodon venustus




I glad there is not a test to get your fishing licence!

[mackmauler]

thanks Gary. looked through the list and came to Bodianus spp after the grass tusfish, dunno where they pulled that from grass tuskies dont have 4 scientific names, at least in grants??? bodianus perdito and bodianus vulpinus are 2 common catches at times not on the list, i can see print outs of this being needed to keep the inspectors informed

[Nugget]

The big problem with the new regulations is identifying what is defined as "Coral Reef Fin Fish" under the ACT.
Gary has kindly (and correctly) listed the lot.

Basically for Brisbane anglers it excludes all estuary species plus snapper, pearl perch, trag, Spanish mackerel, in fact all pelagics, grassies but not redthoat...
Parrot are included.

As Gary has suggested, the safest option is to cut the pectoral (side or 'arm' fin) off all fish you catch offshore.

BUT - you will need to carry a copy of the size and big limits - I doubt most anglers will be able to memorize them all.

Mackmauler - I've already had that discussion with Fisheries - their reply was that older versions of Grants are not recognised as an authority on species identification.
They said only the current version is correct, although not comprehensive.
I haven't looked into it in depth - but that was their explanation.

Dave ><>

[Lucky_Phill]

Now all we need is full colour plates of juvenile and adult species of each and every fish. Along with the regs in full, and we'll all have to buy a bigger boat to carry all this crap around.
Especially to tell the difference between a ' six bar rockcod' and a ' six spot rockcod '.

FFS.

Interesting times ahead folks.

cheers Phill [smiley=help.gif] [smiley=laola.gif] [smiley=laola.gif] [smiley=laola.gif] [smiley=laola.gif]

[sav]

20 years younger and I may have been able to handle all this. And you guys wonder why we like fresh water fishing.
Regards
Sav