Hi Tony Agnes_Jack ,Originally Posted by agnes_jack
What hope have I got I havent even heard of these referance books
Peter
Searaider 2
Hi Tony Agnes_Jack ,
What hope have I got I havent even heard of these referance books
Peter
Searaider 2
Peter,
Here's one by Gerry Allen.
http://www.dymocks.com.au/ContentDyn...SBN=0730983633
Cheers
Jeff
Jeff
That book seems to have the same title and one author as the one referreed to in the CRFF Management plan ( The Regulations)
It may be a good read but the one to use to defend yourself in court is the one defined in the regs
As I posted earlier the Regs refer to
in this case Randall, John E., Allen, Gerald R. and Steene, Roger C.,
1997, The Complete Divers and Fishermen’s Guide to Fishes of
the Great Barrier Reef and Coral Sea, 2nd revised ed, University
of Hawaii Press, United States of America
I will try to find out more about this one.
Gary
Gary
I do have a copy of that book, but I think it may be the first edition. It was produced and published by Crawford house press Panorama avenue Bathurst NSW 2795
This may help you to track it down.
regards, Tony
I have heard them say that several times but if you have a look at the species notes on their website is states under Suggested further reading
Grant, E.M. (2002). Grant’s Guide To Fishes. E.M. Grant Pty Limited, Brisbane.
It is under the heading of Suggested further reading but why are they suggesting you go out and buy/read a $99.00 book if they then will not recognise it ?
Have a look at http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/fishweb/2464.html as just one example
If you are after a copy of GRANT'S GUIDE TO FISHES though you can get it from Ern Grant at http://www.grantsguidetofishes.com/
As mentioned before the title below is THE official book for identifying most Coral Reef Fin Fish - should you need to go to Court.
The book is published in the USA - price is $85 US - so if you can find a retailer here it would be about $160. I am still looking.
Gary
Randall, John E., Allen, Gerald R. and Steene, Roger C.,
1997, The Complete Divers and Fishermen’s Guide to Fishes of
the Great Barrier Reef and Coral Sea, 2nd revised ed,
As I said above - only the official book in the Regulations will do if it ever gets to Court.
I found out there is 2 editions of the same book. Probably identical but with two publishers - in Australia and in the USA.
The Australian Publisher has moved twice - but having tracked them down it seems that the book is out of print - sold out.
But that’s the Australian edition – it is not the edition in the regulations ( Lawyers are fussy like that) .
So on to getting the USA edition - THE official one. Well they have no agents in Australia and refused to sell me a copy ( $85 US Plus shipping and taxes) They refused because they do not have rights to sell in Australia.
So it seems that no one in Australia can get a copy of the Book required to interpret the species in the CRFF regulations.
BTW - the DPI library does not have a copy of the official book either. They do hold 2 copies of the Australian Equivalent. So if it came to Court it seems no one could show the Judge a single copy of the book referred to in the legislation.
I’m tired now. I think I’ll go have a nap.
Gary
Gday Gary
Well, suprise suprise!
So how the hell do they teach there field officers how to ID the species! [smiley=stupid.gif] [smiley=wut.gif] [smiley=wut.gif] [smiley=wut.gif] [smiley=wut.gif]
Red Tape and officialdom [smiley=rifle.gif]
Is this a win/win situation ???
Thats an interesting thought Richo
We cant prove them wrong, and they cant prove themselves right.??? ???
Hi guys the library may not have copys, but the library is only a library, the individual departments/officials that hold any interest in the subject would have them in their desk- guaranteed.nq
Good Point.
I wondered how that edition got into the Regulations
Gary
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