HAD A GUT FULL

[argonautical]

Gazza,

Interesting website, looks like about 25% of saltwater funds go towards buying back licences. I like the fact that there seems to be some level of accountability with how the money is spent. Do we have the same sort of accountability in Qld?

If it takes the introduction of a licence fee to drive that sort of process, I repeat I don't have a problem with it. With the money I spend on boat, fuel, gear, bait and tackle its not much in the scheme of things. This post represents 6 pages of people mostly complaining about netting etc, but very little in the way of solutions.

Argo

[aquarius]

Guys i have no problem in supporting an RFL provided it goes towards a program to upgrade facillities for the recreational angler and not just into the Government's pocket.
With more and more boates on the water these days boat ramps are already overcrowded and its only going to get worse!! gees i wish they would build ramps just for jet skis..lol
ONLY JOKING.
Cheers Brent

[Gazza]

Regards
Gazza

[Gazza]

Argo , have a peek at these....
Regards
Gazza

http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/fishweb/10200.html

and 'accountability' here ......

http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/fishweb/10054.html

[imported_admin]

Guys i have no problem in supporting an RFL provided it goes towards a program to upgrade facillities for the recreational angler and not just into the Government's pocket.
With more and more boates on the water these days boat ramps are already overcrowded and its only going to get worse!!
Cheers Brent

I can not see how an RFL would fix this. We already have over 180 000 boats registered in Queensland, this is around $13 Million in boat registration.

Boat registration since 1993 has risen 60%. This is far greater than the population growth and if the trend continues the caos on the boat ramps will get out of control.

Before we give the Government any more money we should be asking where is the $13 Million going.

Fine, they are spending $200 000 on one boat ramp at Goodna.

Where is the rest of the $13 Million ?

I would suggest that you cantact the New Minister for Transport, Paul Lucas, and see if he can answer this question first. Trying to find his E-mail address, he was only appointed yesterday and the website hasn't been updated yet.


This is only Boat Rego, don't forget that on top of that you have $12.00 PPV Levy and trailer registration.

[Gazza]

Gazza,

Q1: Interesting website, looks like about 25% of saltwater funds go towards buying back licences.

Q2: With the money I spend on boat, fuel, gear, bait and tackle its not much in the scheme of things.
Argo

Argo , A1: It is true about 25% is for "loan repayment" ,but untrue to think/suggest ,more Licences are being bought out.

A2: That is very TRUE , and a very big 10% $GST$ dollar amount being returned to the QLD Gov't

Q's from Gazza (no answers req'd) , would you pay for free-to-air TV? , because you could afford to? Would you pay to walk-your-dog? ,or go jogging? , because you could afford to? , would you want QFS policing/enforcement of bag and size limits to be replaced with 'un-necessary' Fish Licence checking? because they have to?

Mate , IF you wish to donate $$$ ,buy 3 or 4 SIP (stock impoundment permits)......... in the same name/same expiry date. [smiley=2thumbsup.gif]

Respect your perspective , but stop accepting ,as steve mentioned above in his post, monies ALREADY collected NOT being invested "back into the Fishery"

Regards
Gazza

[Fisheasy]

I'm with you Steve - sometimes finding the time to draft/write/send letters gets a little hard.
Wouldn't it be great if we could just download a letter, change our personal details on it and send it on to the appropriate authorities.
Aahhhhhh, if only life was so simple

[basserman]

gazza all i was saying if you read it was the fight would't come from the pet food industry but come from the pro fishermen that sell these not good for much fish to the pet food industry
how would you like it if the goverment said that from now on you are not allowed to make x amount of $ from that business???
you wouldn't just take it sitting down would you???
you would try and fight with what ever you have to keep what ever income you have
so me saying it would cause world wars3-5 was just me saying that they would fight for it and play every dirty trick in the book to keep there way of life eg; get the greenies on side and re publish how rec fishing is in humane and causes fish pain
i say this because it happend wwith the nsw buyout when someone loses there way of life they have had for generation they get up set and stop at nothing

as for a RFL i think alot of you think it was only to put more fish back into the seas here in nsw it is working
we have rec fishing zones we have closed rivers to pro fishing and crabbing we have FADs along our coast within reach of most trailerboats we have more fish getting released into rivers and dams we have fish habitat reconstution areas we have plans for boat ramp reivations (had a look at the one planed for port macquarie with boat washing areas four single laned each with it's own jettiy something like 400 moniterd car parking) all this is comeing in way from the RFL it does work and will work better if we all do the right thing

[imported_admin]

Basserman

Nice to here you are getting a good ramps and wash bay, etc. But shouldn't this have come out of the existing Twenty odd Million dollars NSW boaties are already paying in boat registration and not the RFL.

As far as stocking dams are concerned we already have a Stocked Impoundment Permit (SIP) so can not relate that side to QLD.

[basserman]

true about the impoundment licence steve sorry [smiley=hammer.gif]
we all know where the rego money is going and it isn't to boat launcing faclitys as they are probley argueing (i know it has happened in sydney) about whos resonablity the ramp upkeep is the rta (or qld equle) would say they are mantaing the roads that we drive our cars and trailers along but as it happened (can't remember the suburb) in sydney they say their responablity ends at the driveway/access road
the loacal councle gets involed say they can't affor to have the upkeep for a few hundred cars (few hundred cars compaired to thousands of home oweners that is) thats where the water ways and fisheries come in and need to pick up the slack as they are the last on the line
so i guess what i'm saying is the rta or whoever just need to keep claiming it is not for them to do thats why the waterways and fisheries need to lookafter them as it is only boats and fishermen that use them

[basserman]

please don't get me wrong i don't agree with that but thats the way it get argueed
i personly would like to know where all my road fees and taxes goes as the roads in rural nsw leaves alot to be desired hell still havle are dirt roads and the sealded ones are getting that rough half the time you wait to hear the tyer go POP
i think it is disgusting that out of all the taxes we all pay there still isn't a dual carageway between melbourne and brisbaine

[Gazza]

Basser ,mate , i'll only hate your gutz come state-of-origin time ,promise!!

Man ,you pay rego ,you got shit roads ,what's the solution ,pay more rego ???

Mate ,that ramp you mention ,do you really believe after you pay for it ,it will be f-r-e-e ???

Gunna plunk a post under NSW Fisheries , as well ,so stay tuned ,as you guys need to admit , oneday, hopefully in this lifetime ,that "you pay, you say" is at best a crock o' crap ,at worst BS.....plain 'n simple.

p.s. CANETOADS e-a-t CROCKROACHES ,

Regards
Gazza

[argonautical]

I'm with you Steve - sometimes finding the time to draft/write/send letters gets a little hard.
Wouldn't it be great if we could just download a letter, change our personal details on it and send it on to the appropriate authorities.
Aahhhhhh, if only life was so simple

Not sure what I am doing with this quote thing, butFisheasy that is eaxactly what was done in relation to the fish cage proposal. Download, edit as desired and mail. It was that simple.

Argo

[argonautical]

Gazza,

Checked out those websites, but I am a salty not a freshie so the freshwater stocking thing not on my radar.

I see your point about free to air TV, dog walking etc but I am not trying to fix things that ain't broke.

The way I see it things are improving for the rec fisher in NSW and it is down to RFI. Imagine a future where Moreton Bay was closed to professional fisherman. I'd like to see that.

Argo

[Gazza]

Mate ,not a problem ,that's my point ,FRESHWATER stocking , is good ,said many times , I support it(SIP concept) 110% , and I and any spur-of-the-moment mate ,can go fishing rivers fresh/salt ,or boat (as long as rego'd and safety stuff) ,abide by bag/size/piss and Recreational enjoy ourselves.....OUR choice !!! ,,either f-r-e-e or put 'n take option [smiley=2thumbsup.gif]

my point ,it's not broke ,so don't fk it up ,for the masses...

p.s. should add ,SunAqua can git fk'd ,for the same ideals you state

p.p.s. couldn't give you a link, on Salt ,as we don't need one, or have one [smiley=2thumbsup.gif]