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Perhaps they should look at lifting the min size from 23cm
Not much of a fish at that size
Hi folks would like to see the for and against arguement on bag limits for bream. And if you think their Should be one. Am interested in this topic as i am doing a little bit of research. I was at the king of the pin the other weekend and watched a few people boast about how they caught over a hundred bream. Whats your thoughts?
Cheers Marty ???
Perhaps they should look at lifting the min size from 23cm
Not much of a fish at that size
yes ive found most people dont keep any under 25cm.
The min size will never change because bream are actually sexually mature at just over 20cm, i.e they've had time to sporn before being legally caught.
The bigger issue is the pro movement sanctioning an increase in a bread and butter species. They arguments about by-catch etc come back into play and Fisheries take notice.
Should have heard the pros scream about flathead. And from their perspective with good reason.
Maybe the bigger issue you should be debating is the "overall bag limit" - now that's a doozie. How many people would agree to that.
Bugman
They caught over 100 or they took over 100? If they took over 100, then they have no place fishing in such a competition, as they defy the very "unspoken rules" that sensible rec fishos abide by. People like that need a kick in the nuts.
Me
Minimum length should be increased, but as Bugman said, it probably wont be. If you have to measure a fish to see if it is legal, you may as well throw it back anyway....as for a bag limit, of course there should be one..... [smiley=end.gif]
Catching (and keeping) cricket scores of fish is just neanderthal. If that is how people measure their prowess, then I feel sorry for them.
I know King of the Pin doesn't operate on numbers, but there are some clubs and some comps which still do and they should take a long hard look at themselves.
A bag limit of 10-20 bream per person would be appropriate.
I could live with an overall bag limit, but why are you bringing this up Bugman? What is the issue? It is common for someone to catch a bag limit of a particular species, but not very common for anyone to get into numbers of 2 or more species as far as I am aware anyway.
Jeremy
"The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
(Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)
Apathy is the enemy
Bag limits would be good, but if you can find somewhere to bag out on 10 or 20 decent sized bream in a single session these days, you're doing quite well. Bream aren't exactly what you'd call the mecca of fishing, but shit....as Jeremy said, taking cricket scores of any fish is just plain rediculous. To me, regardless of what species, if you do that - you're on the same level as our "northern friends" that undertake the same practises with the same mindset.
Me
Maria you sound like Pauline Hansen.
I'd support a bag limt. 10 wouold be good.
Jeremy,
The has/is/will be a push to introduce a combined bag limit. It might be 20 - it might be 30.
That is you can have no more than say 30 fish in your possession - ie, whiting, bream, flathead, tailor, reef fish etc.
I agree it probably doesn't affect someone fishing for a day - other than whiting fisherman but those on a extended fishing trip could have problems. Don't get me wrong I'm actually in favour of bag limits but I'd rather see them on individual species.
A combined bag limit would soon kill off the practises of some - even some clubs for that matter.
The thing I hate the most about bag limits is up sizingYou wouldn't believe how many people do it.
Brett
Bag limits are an absolute waste of time above/below certain critera limits. The lower the bag limt the more waste and mal practice there will be.
Basically the first thing that should move with most species is minimum sizes but all has to be done in the right context as some of the increases in sizes of late if they were proportionally applied to bream, whiting etc would see some rather stupid figures result.
Cheers, Kerry.
should be a bag limit for all bread and butter species- otherwise ist rape and pillage
Jockey,
I'm a little confsed as to where along the line you came across the notion that I'm sounding like Pauline Hanson.
If the comment was in relation to me making note of our "northern friends", then let it be known that the comment was not made from a racist point of view, but a realistic one.
All too often the political correctness that society these days must conform to sees reality ignored because people are accused of being racist in their comments.
Let’s not make a soap box scenario out of it.
Ben
Ben,
you have me confused with someone else ie Jockey.
Cheers,
Jeremy
"The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
(Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)
Apathy is the enemy
Shit....sorry Jeremy. My appologies.
Ben
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