caught a couple of nice jacks, one while fishing for flathead on lures and the other on live bait, that fish was a little over 2.5kg and I had to use my mackeral gear to get it. Since then I have spent countless hours for nothing. No one would ever want to go jack fishing with me now. Anyway I generally use 8kg line, no trace and a 6/0 in the back of anything I can catch for live bait. It worked before. Would night be better? I just have to catch another one. Female pride at stake here.