XXXX is bad for Fishers

[Nugget]

When someone mentions Paris Hilton – what comes to mind?
Do you think she would ever be able to change her public image?

When you see a red Ferrari, what image do you have of its owner?

While these ads are funny and we would hope not harmful, the reality is that this does put an image of angers into people’s minds - An image that we don’t need in this day and age.

I wish that it was as simple as having a laugh at the ad and ourselves – but with all the mounting pressure on our sport / hobby – we need to be seen as environmentally caring, conservation minded and participating in a family activity.

Running into charter boats and dynamite just doesn’t fit in.
I'm sure their creative advertising department could come up with a better campaign.

Dave ><>

[dazza]

i agree with garry,
to me is is the insideous portrayal of rec fisho's
as beer swilling yobbo's who don't really give a hoot,

or the cruel buggers who hook a fish with a hook and drag it to the boat stressed and struggling (read any green propagander)

or the mob who throw their rubbish (smoke butt's) over the side (how many of you do this or have seen it done)

etc etc

it makes fishing less palatable to the general public, the average joe who dosen't fish thinks well bugger them, if the govt makes like hard for them well so what!

remember 80% of people don't fish, we have to tell those 80% that we want to keep fishing, we are responsible and care for the environment, so when the govt wants to regulate us out of our lifestyle/recreation those that don't fish are our supporters.
bad portrayal by media= bad image
good portrayal = good image

my thoughts
cheers
dazza

[BigE]

??? ??? ??? ??? ??? hey what if someone suggested to XXXX that it would be warm and fuzzy as well as green and enviormentally friendly to be assoicated with the green movment ......... you know two ferals chained to a tree sucking on a coldie just gotta get em to get rid of the joint

[davo]

I understand everyone's point of view but I'm with Gary on this one. Have a look at the TV programs relating to fishing. It seem that you have to be A.D.D or act like an idiot to get your face on the screen. The Wildfish series wasn't like that and was successful. Brown's coast watch is gone and look at the cardboard cut out left.

I think with the XXXX add we all miss the one point. If you drink too much of this stuff you end up like them!!!

[thedeckie]

Iam with Webby,if the xxxx ads offend you have a Bundy (I swing towards both),personally I think all the xxxx ads over the years have been terriffic not mention humourous,they certainly capture our lifestyle,climate and way of life.Keep them coming xxxx,I dont know how they can make the stuff the price.
Yours Sincerely
XXXX Drinker

[jugs]

Geez fella's! Why dont you think up another scenario for XXXX to use for continuous advertising that is as well received as the current series of ads are, then they will leave fisho's alone!!! You talk about giving fisho's a bad name, the number of people we see out fishing or just cruising with a beer in their hand- I think they are giving us a much worse name than the XXXX ads!

[gif]

Some are completely missing the point. Try to put down the can and focus on what is the issue under discussion.

I LIKE the adds but they are making us out to be environmental fools. ....and some of that mud sticks - especially in the minds of the 80% of voters who don't fish.

And so we are an easier target for the Greenies Its all a PR warfare


Listen to what someone else wrote

From Rex Hunts Retirement speach

It is clear, however, that fishing will eventually be a minority activity. The greenies and the do-gooders will block off more areas and ban fishing. The animal libbers will finally do to fishing what they have done to the shooters. Surely they won't ban mushrooming or blackberrying, would they?

Quite bluntly we, the anglers, have ourselves to blame for our predicament. We should have done more, we should have recognized the early signs, we should have formed our lobby group when the first signs were there. Now it is too late. We will pay dearly for our apathy and the "she'll be right mate mentality". Clearly, she won't be right.

Now all of you stay focussed for a minute This is NOT a discussion about Rex Hunt and if you like him or not.

Here is a person who spent ages in the industry saying that " she'll be right" is how you spot an idiot. (to talk the way Rex would talk)

[Render]

Yeah.

They're right, you know.

The establishment is not just bending you over, they're mixing good beach sand into the vaseline.

I say this, because I've seen it before in the country I just flicked two fingers to. What happens there tends to happen here a couple of years later, anyone disagree with that?

So, what I saw happening up there... which was *that* bad, it made me emigrate... is now beginning to happen here.

I disagree with Rexy on one point: It's not too late *YET*. But, by God, we're all going to have to band together and become a mighty voice *DAMN* quick, or it will be.

It's up to you. I'd be more than happy to give you a glimpse into your future by explaining what's coming... what has already happened up in England. Truth is, most of you won't believe it, but there's other Brit lads on this site and I guarantee they'll all back me up on it.

Choice is yours... fight or lose.

Cheers,

R

[Dignity]

mmmmm - don't like the dynamite ads, seen some on the northside, think there's one at normanby, cringe every time I see this add. I just can not see the logic behind using something like this. I suppose since XXXX is not aussie owned they don't give a hoot.

Love the others but can't give comment on whether they are harmful to the fishing cause.

[Jack_Lives_Here]

Geez Gary you are kidding right. Have you been watching conspiracy theory movie marathons??? I suppose you also think the moon landings were faked and Elvis is still alive
It's like ALL points of view - I'd bet there are plenty of fishing folk who don't believe the ads portray them as beer drinking yobo's - I'm one. People are born knowing right from wrong. Our Aussie larikinism, part of our heritage, is being chipped away by the PC police.

I likes my GOLDIES ice cold.

AND Yes driving whilst operating a camera is undue care and attention.

[Gazza]

Subtle point.......dynamiting is an illegal act , and should not IMO ,be associated with Fishing ??? ,and should be withdrawn >

'Larrikin' is fine e.g. those other "super-fridge" adverts for grog and a "good-time fishing trip" were a positive perspective ,these aren't ,and should be pointed out as such >

[Black_Rat]

Geeze I could only imagine what might be happening on a femenist chat board with that xxxx billboard that shows a picture of a ring and the caption "Life Sentence"
The use of dynamite and fishing on a billboard humourous to us but to others ...mmmmmm
Damo.

[Mick]

So, all surfers are stoned bums that are on the dole? All rock bands use heavy drugs and worship satin? All footballers get drunk and treat women with no respect? All computer nerds have never been laid?
If you answered yes to any of these questions, you are niave. If you think all fisherman do what is on television or billboards you are also niave. I don't think the fishermans image is under threat any more or less since the xxxx adds, and if it is, it is because of niave people who I couldn't care less about.

[Gutsy]

I do find the XXXX ads funny and enjoy a ice cold Goldie. However, have seen the dynamite billboard on Ipswich rd and though this was a bit over the top.

[gunna]

Have a read of this
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...toryid=2622559

then compare it to your ads and consider which image you would prefer to portray to the gullible masses who cannot see past the Greens propaganda.

I know which I think is better.