You've gotta be right, how do we get the message out. ???Originally Posted by Billo
You've gotta be right, how do we get the message out. ???
I eat what I keep, except the odd vermin (eg., grinners, and happy momments).
Tuna = sashimi and sushi (fresh is best)
Flathead = fillets with lemongrass and sweet chilli in BBQ foil wraps
Eel = smoked eel
Whiting, bream = panfish (occasionally mullet also when the net is overloaded)
etc...
For instance though, I hated it when fishing for sweep and there is a long long line of cod (from kangaroo island) just floating off the end of the boat, swim bladder up. What do you do? I'm sure you guys pop some eyeballs here.
Or even more perplexing - a beautiful coloured fish like a blue devil, that should be in the sea or a fish tank, but hey it's really really tasty. That one I eat though
Nath, most people targetting billies these days are using lures for that reason. Some of the comps are lure only for this reason. Lure caught bills release just fine.
My thoughts on this topic...I generally only keep enough for 3-4 meals for two. I don't believe that feeding the relies and neighbours is justified, but sometimes can't be helped if you have caught a really big one.
I think most of the bag limits are excessive and it is ridiculous to suggest that you have to catch $100 worth of fish (or whatever) to justify the petrol you use to get out to the reef.
I get my kicks from hooking and fighting on light line the fish I am targeting. The thrill of the hunt and the skill of the fight. I also enjoy watching a magnificent fish go back to breed or give someone else a thrill.
I never keep bream, just a couple of flathead per trip, love snapper, mackerel, tuna, mahi mahi, cobia.
Jeremy
"The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
(Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)
Apathy is the enemy
KILL....
C&R is for undersize ,or when your fishing in a nursery
Just move your boat to a better spot ! ,and catch a variety to make up your feed/menu ,to tide you/family over for a few days ,until the next time you wet a line for FOOD.
End of story
Grinners... Kill em ALL!!
I guess as a whole most responses are that of kill for a feed ! Matching my words ....and that is commendable !
As Dash said earlier about the change from 50 years ago ...times are a changing ....and i am sure in another 50 years it will be a whole new ball park again .....What kind of park will it be though ?
I can assure you that the mind set of most people in south east Queensland that i speak with is light years ahead of southern N.S.W. folk .
I know there is a lot of people down there that practice C&R , but there is still a heck of a lot of comp killings and mass hauls by rec fishos .
A few people talk politics .....WHY ? .......seriously ...what the hell of the politicians got to do with what you put in your esky ?
Aside from the odd green zone ....or protected species ( which i have no problem with - aside from some of these damn GNS Zoning regs taking over our spanish trolling grounds ) they have no influence here ....the post is YOUR THOUGHTS on what is moral or immoral .....The idea is to STOP blaming third parties and bring YOUR CONSCIENCE on the line .
If everyone went out and KILLED THEIR LIMIT .....what state would our fisheries be in ?
Size limits would go up ...smaller bag limits would come into force ......protected areas would increase in numbers .......protected species would increase .
Do you really believe that current legislation STOPS us from getting a decent feed ?....i think it is too wide open for abuse !
I am not expecting everyone to come down the same line and have total agreeance . What i would expect is that most fishos have a little respect for their environment .
I don't mean respect by go hug a tree , ...Respect is something as simple as ' WASTE NOT WANT NOT '....
I see fish carcases at boat ramps where people have taken tiny slither fillets off the shoulders as thats the 'best bit ' ....i see WHOLE carcases as some people's first instinct is to catch and KILL ...then later they decide it's too much hassle cleaning ....or the fish wasn't a good eating fish anyway ......or they just wanted to take it home for a photo ......or take it home to show off ....or look good at the boat ramp .....
This isn't a come forward so we can attack you post !
I have been guilty of some of the above in the past ............yes yes ...shame on me!
But i have felt the guilt and learnt from it , there's no shame in being honest ...i was not taught good practice ...but i soon learnt with the likes of people who already understood !
The feeling ( FOR ME ) of releasing a ' Trophy ' fish far outways the feeling of hanging it !
Maybe those that have not released many 'large ' fish should try it one day .....
Dasher , as for educating ...it's an on going saga isn't it !
I have been showing a few newbies to the world of offshore fishing the last few months .
And we have been releasing some damn good fish ...but i have been giving them the reasons why the whole time .
I guess if everyone one did their bit as an individual to impart their knowledge onto someone else ....the next generation will be on top of their game .
I seriously think that as a community of fisho's , Our peers definitely command a lot of respect and do make a difference.
Sites like this and discussions like this ...if we make one person release a dozen extra fish a year ....that is making a difference is it not !
Its good to see that TV is now getting right into the live way ins ...and a lot more comps are limiting entries to categories as one fish per species etc ...
Those who make the TV shows ......right the magazine articles ......organise the comps .....post reports on the net ....
These are the people who ARE teaching newbies every day .....and yes , that Does mean ALL OF YOU TOO !!!!!!
The next generation are computerised without a doubt .....a lot of their information comes from these sites !
It is us that are the teachers ....we can not expect others to do it for us
I agree 100%
Mick
I think its differet for different fishos. If you were paying hundreds od dollars in fuel to get to the reef than you want to catch your bag limit to justify the fuel bill. I know guys who only go out three or four times a year because of their work commitments and I know if I was one of those guys I would be trying to fill every esky there is.
It dosnt matter what we do as recreational fishermen because one pro will catch more coral trout and mackeral in one year than I will in provbably forty years so I dont know how releasing maybe 20 fish a year is goig to make a difference. I just wish you guys could see these live trout boats and mackeral boats unload there weekely catch and youd understand.
MMMmmm...well I guess if a person doesn't fish fish for food (death)and fun then they just fish for fun (probable/improbable death).
Possibly the next step would be plastic hooks that are designed to straighten after 30sec of a fight, a win win for both the fish and the not for food fisher?
Sorry NQ, don't agree at all that releasing a fish means probable death - if that is what you mean?
Jeremy
"The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
(Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)
Apathy is the enemy
NQ , i wouldn't say that there is a probable death for all fish that are released after being captured .
Sure , there is a percentage , but technique makes a BIG difference , AGAIN ...this is something we should be teaching and sharing and should become a common practice
for instance :
* Live baiters using circle hooks .
* Deep water fish having their swim bladder pierced correctly for release .
* swimming large fish like marlin before release
* proper tagging positions and techiques
* limited handling of fish to be released ...
Dev .....i know the pro's completely shatter the fish populations .Pity isn't it ......what can we do about that !?? not too much at the moment , unless you want to join green peace and head out on a scuba mission and cut all their lines and nets ...
Seriosuly though ...gotta start somewhere don't we !
The journey of 1000 miles starts with one step !
If you released 20 more fish a year .....and we convinced another 1000 fishos to do the same .....thats an extra 20,000 fish out their that have the potential to breed next cycle ...20,000 more fish breeding could mean 1,000,000 more fry swimming around to battle out for the next season ...
I personally do believe it would make a difference ....maybe nothing noticeable in our life time ...then again ....maybe it could make all the difference !
Billo,
You say to "limit handling of fish to be released". Does giving a beaky a bear hug (Your photie) limit handling? Or did you kill this one?
Nath....
Boxhead, that bill was a dead before leaving the water....
This is the sort of info I have been talking about. Lets have more. I've had a freind contact me to say he has a poster that says trigger fish are poisonous. Lets get some info happening eh.
Just as an aside, who realised u sld pierce the swim bladder of a fish u dragged up from the depths. ??? ??? How many of u realised trigger fish are poisonous. ???
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