ok fair enough, but if i told you that Dolphins not only kill for fun but pack rape each other and other animals would it still make them such cute creatures? dont get me wrong, I love dolphins, but then again I also had a pet roo once.
Dolphins do tricks...only for the food at the end...do we know they like to interact with humans? or is that also only for the easy tucker. Brown bears in Asia also do tricks and interact with humans but I doubt they enjoy it.Originally Posted by Mick
I have no idea either way on this subject as I did not see the TV show therefore cannot really comment on what was shown...maybe another media story to follow on the whale story...keep the anti Japan feeling going perhaps.
Hi all
Having worked in a country where the population was 98% Muslim made me very aware and understanding of cultures other than my own. #The following link is a video clip from the site I mentioned earlier. #
The video clip from Futo, Japan shows the slaughter for food of dolphins and if you are squeamish maybe you or your children shouldn't watch it.
If you have dialup it may be better download it first as it is 6.1 mb.
http://www.seashepherd.org/taiji/taiji_video.html
After seeing a number of different lifestyles over the years I personally see this as culturally acceptable.
Derek
I can't comment on the actual show as I did not see it but I know the type of TV producer that just loves to cook up a controversy and know where it gets ratings. This is both good and bad.
I lived overseas for 6years in Northern Europe at the start of the 90's and I we got hammered with TV shows from Australia describing everything from how we are nasty to the indigenous people to showing footage of horses and roos shot from helicopters.
Mate did i cop the flak...in the local pub..
The closest to the above footage would probably be the Horses shot from choppers in the North of OZ and peoples response... couldn't they just catch them.. I'll have one.. or .. thats not giving them a chance...
Send some roo shoot footage to Japan and I'm sure you'll get a response.
I like Dolphins too
Anyone get a recipe?
sorrry [smiley=behead.gif]
I don't care what anyone says, this is not acceptable by anyone anywhere. That video has got to be the sickest thing I have ever seen, I couldn't even watch it to the end. Anyone who even starts to think that this type of slaughter is acceptable is sick.
Obviously these are my thoughts,
Corry
Atleast we drop a lump of lead or steel in a bovines noggin.. those cruel pricks are just hauling em out and slashing there throats.. i did watch the whole movie.. not exactly user friendly...
Tim
That was barbarian stuff.
I saw the show and found it interesting. I dont really get into the dolphin hype as I see them as pests. If they are being consumed then its fair enough I feel. These people have been doing it for tens of years so it must be fairly sustainable, there are heaps of them in the sea so why worry about it.
As for them being so smart why didnt they just jump over the net? They kill and transport around 500 dolphin a year which is a tiny amount compared to world populations. Its part of their culture and its in their own country so you just have to respect it. I know I would eat it
I said above that this just does not feel right.
After reading some of the responses I can see that this is not a simple issue.
Where I live Lassie or Garfield do show up at the dinner, on the table.
I do not eat dogs (must have at least one principle in life) but everything else served I would and do try.
Yes, most of the people in the world do look at this dolphin killing practice with disgust.
Dolphins are a special type of "fish" and we do tend to see only nicer aspects of their existence.
It really doesnt look like this would put any real pressure on dolphin population as it is limited to a small area.
I have also seen a very simmilar footage of fishing boats (I think in Mediterrenian Sea) rounding up bluefin tuna in nets and then gaffing them up one by one, even more bloody
But they are fish so it is more acceptable.
Let's be straight.
We do catch and kill fish, some of us hunt and kill mamals, most of us eat meat coming from killed animals.
Aren't these lambs and cattle cute?
How about the carp or tilapia isuue in Oz?
Kill them and throw away into a "provided bin"?
This does not sound right either.
What some see as acceptable others do not.
just viewed the 6 min vid and found it simular to the slaughter of cattle at an abotoir, differend yard though. Both rounded up into cages and both slaughtered. I love a slab of steak or a feed of fish. Killing however carried out is not humane but we need to survive. Would I eat whale or dolphin NO
cheers
blaze
It looks terrible, and face it, it IS terrible, very sad and a gory spectacle. I would not mind nearly as much if they were to simply wade thru their captured dolphins and despatch them with a single shot to the noggin, that would not worry me at all.
However, with them slaughtering these creatures so inhumanely is not good. True, they have killed and eaten dolphins for centuries now, so it an accepted practice, sure that is fine, however, they should now be able to improve their culling techniques to a more humane and acceptable method... we don't go out and shoot our cattle with bows and arrows any more, they should get with the plan a little more over there as well.
I like seeing dolphins at sea, they are indeed cute little critters, as long as you do not look too closely at them. Do that, and they quickly lose their cutesy appeal, they are merely wild animals, albeit rather clever ones.
In the Solomons a year or so back, I was chatting with the Fish master on a Purse seiner there. He was Peruvian, interesting bloke, and showed me assorted pics etc of his trips around the world etc, including a few years back when he was working off Mexico, and a heap of dolphins they got in their purse seine one day (several days actually). I asked him why they didn't let them go etc etc, and he replied that they didin't let them go because they took them in to port and sold them on the local market to the mexicans, who have no qualms about a nice bit of Dolphin steak.
Is that P.C. No way. Is it the sort of thing we would do in our part of the Anglo-saxon world, never, but hey, I guess 3rd world places live by different rules, and protein never goes to waste I s'pose.
Cheers, Stu.
Reading Dereks comments about the inhumane methods of killing mammals, dolphins and then he went on to say recreational fisherman's handling of fish. I love Dolphins and could watch them for hours surfing the bow.
Did you know the Japs invented the best way to despatch a fresh caught fish. Its called "Iki" in Jap and relates to brain spiking fish with an Iki stick or spike pushed into the head of the fish behind the eye but pointing forward into the brain to kill it instantly.
This technique is mandatory in the Australian Tuna Fishery and you know which country takes most of our Tuna.
I have used it for years to not only despatch the fish humanely [Quickly without it suffocating to death] but to improve the flavour.
As you hit the spot the fish will briefly shudder and then its colour will return...try it on Coral Trout. If you have watched a Trout go from Deep Red to Pale Pink as its suffocating and when it dies go back to Red again...Try spiking it and it will retain its brilliant just caught colour.
Fish push out large amounts of acid while stressing in a kill box and die slowly, and this goes through the flesh, lowering the eating quality.
We use a Stainless T with quarter inch by 6 inch sharpened shaft and stainless pipe handle.
[In Brisbane call Marty at "Marinefit" Stainless to fabricate you one] or any metal worker will build you one.
ok ok I watched the video.
Seems like there are a couple of issues here.
1. Killing or not killing Dolphins or whatever is one issue and if we kill Roos or trout or dogs or whatever then we should be able to understand others killing animals that we look upon as something we should leave alone. ie I go a long way to avoid hurting a turtle but I can understand societies where they are eaten or soup made in the shell.
2. Killing inhumanely is another issue as is unneccessary cruelty. Plenty of cultures in the world don't have respect for animals (nor at times other people) and thus handle and kill very inhumanely and only informing people of how you can do things in a better manner will change things. Teaching respect for life is the key here.
I kill as humanely as I can but i do kill and I do hook a livie and send it out to either die from truma or being eaten, but I respect the bugger.
3. Don't forget that the people who are often in these protest societies will eventually turn their attention to your sport. Livebaiting is banned in Germany.
Protest against what is wrong but I would say that unnecessary cruelty is the point not killing Dolphins or Lassie, Baby seals, Bambi, Skippy or children in detention #oops did I say that, anyway jokes aside you get the gist.
I've been spiking using a philips head screwdriver and I think the fish have not noticed that its not stainless.
You can buy these iki spikes at most spearo shops. If not a sharpened screw driver works a trick
I don't care what any one says ....thats bloody barbaric !
Science proves that they know what the hell is going on , they are friggen smart animals !
Western cultures continuously look at our own ways of kiling animals and make it as humane as possible....If there is a better way of doing it ....we do it ....
There is much more humane ways of killing .They know it !!!
The most disgusting thing is THEY DON'T CARE ! >
No one can argue on that after watching those clips!!!
Get off the debate of wether they should or shouldn't eat it ...We eat whatever the hell we want to ! I have no qualm with them eating dolphin .....but i am disgusted with their method of killing...or LACK OF
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