would you do it

[gilbo]

Phil

Costs around $54,000 a year to keep someone in jail and do you know who pays that, yep, you and me and everyone else out there who pays taxes.

Wow 54K to keep these people locked up, then add on the extra costs we have for increased insurance premiums (though the roof if you live in a "high risk" postcode, secrurity measures and devices, picking the kids up from school rather then letting them walk, increased prices in shops to cover for lost stock, and everything else that goes with wanting the ability to feeling safe in this world ,and the drain on society is huge.

But what do you do with them. Maybe one should look at some of the schemes and programs they have in the prisons and while I am far from an expert on it, you do see a lot that makes you wonder at times whether these guys are getting it better in there than they ever had it on the outside.

Leaving myself wide open and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

As for the shooting at people for the crime of stealing crab pots, should we shoot at people for bring in undersize fish, or shoot at them for bring back more than their quota, in a way they are stealing indirectly from the fishing community as if an incident did occur and someone was seriously injured or killed over "crab pot rage", how many would be on here commending the person that caused the injury or death - I would hate to think too many of you. I am not trying to belittle the action of share farming as it is annoying but just trying to put it in perspective.

Cheers

Shane

[gilbo]

Phil

Costs around $54,000 a year to keep someone in jail and do you know who pays that, yep, you and me and everyone else out there who pays taxes.

Wow 54K to keep these people locked up, then add on the extra costs we have for increased insurance premiums (though the roof if you live in a "high risk" postcode, secrurity measures and devices, picking the kids up from school rather then letting them walk, increased prices in shops to cover for lost stock, and everything else that goes with wanting the ability to feeling safe in this world ,and the drain on society is huge.

But what do you do with them. Maybe one should look at some of the schemes and programs they have in the prisons and while I am far from an expert on it, you do see a lot that makes you wonder at times whether these guys are getting it better in there than they ever had it on the outside.

Leaving myself wide open and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

As for the shooting at people for the crime of stealing crab pots, should we shoot at people for bring in undersize fish, or shoot at them for bring back more than their quota, in a way they are stealing indirectly from the fishing community as if an incident did occur and someone was seriously injured or killed over "crab pot rage", how many would be on here commending the person that caused the injury or death - I would hate to think too many of you. I am not trying to belittle the action of share farming as it is annoying but just trying to put it in perspective.

Cheers

Shane

[gilbo]

Phil

Costs around $54,000 a year to keep someone in jail and do you know who pays that, yep, you and me and everyone else out there who pays taxes.

Wow 54K to keep these people locked up, then add on the extra costs we have for increased insurance premiums (though the roof if you live in a "high risk" postcode, secrurity measures and devices, picking the kids up from school rather then letting them walk, increased prices in shops to cover for lost stock, and everything else that goes with wanting the ability to feeling safe in this world ,and the drain on society is huge.

But what do you do with them. Maybe one should look at some of the schemes and programs they have in the prisons and while I am far from an expert on it, you do see a lot that makes you wonder at times whether these guys are getting it better in there than they ever had it on the outside.

Leaving myself wide open and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

As for the shooting at people for the crime of stealing crab pots, should we shoot at people for bringing in undersize fish, or shoot at them for bringing back more than their bag limit, in a way they are stealing indirectly from the fishing community and if an incident did occur and someone was seriously injured or killed over "crab pot rage", how many would be on here commending the person that caused the injury or death - I would hate to think too many of you. I am not trying to belittle the action of share farming as it is annoying but just trying to put it in perspective.

Cheers

Shane

[INDULGENCE]

Hey El Carpo

Do you know where I can buy some plastic crabs plus plastic women just in case some bugger steals my missus. Second thoughts forget the crabs.


Wally

[mattooty]

Violence is not an answer to this problem. Sink your pots, hide them, o whatever, but do not cross the law. It's not worth it. Putting a pot in among crab pot thieves is like leaving your car unlocked with keys in the ignition. In some parts of Australia that is fine, but in others not. We have to fish and crab accordingly.

Cheers
Dave

I know that you are just helping put the scenario into perspective but sinking pots is crssing the law. What sort of society are we in when we can say, "dont shoot at someone" then in another effort we can only think of other illegal ways to remedy the situation.
Sure, theres a huge space between petty theft and murder but it all comes down to being illegal.
We need to have in some way, a public voice or union to push for heavier hands in regards to punishing/catching these lowlife pr!icks. If we dont start now, then sooner or later another old codger or young mental case is going to end up hurting someone or worse killing them over a crab.
then what, society will blaim the fisho's for not alerting them sufficiently to our problem.
We can all bitch and complain like we all are right now but in reality we have to get out there and do something, wether its taking digi pictures of the scum, creating unions or braintstorming new laws.
Matt

[el_carpo]

Hey El Carpo

Do you know where I can buy some plastic crabs plus plastic women just in case some bugger steals my missus. Second thoughts forget the crabs.


Wally

I can't tell it on a family site like this, but a very funny joke came to my mind after reading your question, INDULGENCE. I laughed at it long and loud. Sorry I can't share it, but you have my sincere thanks.

EC

[grumble]

Dont go for the body...Just the bilge...A couple holes in the bottom of the boat would make them go home real quick...

[rick_k]

Right.

We have handed the administration of justice over to the cops and the courts because that system works best for most, if it is working properly.

The other path is pretty dodgy, and is embraced by a lot of the world now. That path is right is might. There is no justice apart from who is strongest. Bring back slavery. Bring back dictators. etc.

Yes, I know, right now the Golden rule has a lot of force. That is, S/he who has the most gold, rules. And force has been the only answer to that in history.

I hope we get it right. Our 20 month old daughter depends on it. I hope the coppers never put me on hold when I need them. If that happens, it will be time to swap sides.

As to those who want to go the knuckle. All I can say is that the white hats don't always win.

Finally, coppers, insurance companies and politicians all make their living out of crime. Honest people probably won't win.

Well, I said finally, but, this really is final. There is no real sense of community any more. When my pareents were kids, everyone knew everyone else's business, and who was a problem. Doors were left unlocked. Gossip happened. Now we all retreat inside behind locked doors, and barred windows, and move away from our communities.

[tigermullet]

Absolutely not! In this country we do not have the death penalty for any offence let alone something as trivial as lifting a crab pot.

It is annoying to have your pots lifted and crabs taken but the offence does not deserve the threat of death.

Did this elderly gentleman shoot at the boat without even a proper investigation? There could well have a been a lawful excuse for his pots being lifted. What, I do not know but there could have been.

How would you feel if you were untangling a float line from your prop after accidentally running over it and someone came along and started shooting?