big sharks /small boats

[bidkev]

Kingtin
You call that a shark Mate out where I go you can catch a mako on line and take photos as it leaps out of the water doin barral rolls trying to break free.That old shovel couldn't hert a fly.We also get big tiger sharks.No way I would pull one of them on board. [smiley=angel.gif]
Next time you onto a shark pull along side your boat and roll it onto its back you might find it easyer to tame. [smiley=bandana.gif]

Nope, I call it a ray. I've caught 'em twice that size but that one's my proudest catch......taken on a prawn on 5 kilo line :-).

As for 'em not hurting a fly, you keep out of the way of that tail in a small boat and you certainly don't put your fingers anywhere near a mouth that can crush shellfish.

Pound for pound, I reckon a big shovelly can give a better fight that any shark I've encountered.......they just don't seem to know when they're beaten......*and* they taste better *and* they don't stink as much when you gut 'em :-)

I caught a small Mako of about 5 ft back in the UK about 20 yrs ago.........fantastic sight to see 'em leap.......hopefully, I'll see it happen again (here) one day.

cheers

kev

[phewy]

kingtin, if your'e boating them then releasing alive if not needed for food thats fantastic, but I was referring to the mongrels who boat sharks to take back to the dock to have their pics taken, maybe have the sharks jaws ripped out for trophys then have the carcass dumped back at sea. But if you want a real "adrenalin rush" why not jump into their enviroment unprotected while their swimming around you whilst your'e gasping for breath!

[bidkev]

kingtin, if your'e boating them then releasing alive if not needed for food thats fantastic, but I was referring to the mongrels who boat sharks to take back to the dock to have their pics taken, maybe have the sharks jaws ripped out for trophys then have the carcass dumped back at sea. But if you want a real "adrenalin rush" why not jump into their enviroment unprotected while their swimming around you whilst your'e gasping for breath!

Do I detect a note of sarcasm? If so, that's a ridiculous statement........you might as well tell *all* fishos to jump into the water and catch fish with their bare hands.

This particular issue could be argued for ever and a day and we could run around in circles till we dissapeared up our own arses...... eg Why is someone who takes one fish (for a trophy) that is not subject to take limits, considered a mongrel, whereas someone who "bags out" is not? Why does someone who catches fish to eat (enjoyment), consider themselves to be on higher moral ground than someone who catches and retains fish for a trophy (enjoyment)? I know it could be argued that eating is a necessity but why hunt for the food? Why should someone not be entitled to a "jaws trophy" if someone else is entitled to kill for other reasons? Killing is killing period!

I am a conservationist. I take only what I need. I get out of my sport relative to what I put into it. *I personally*, don't consider a fish to be caught until it is boated. It's a hunter/gatherer thing I suppose. If I have a particular need on any given day to boat a fish then I will attempt that.....on other days, I may have no desire at all and will always loose 'em at the side of the boat. That's *my* type/style of fishing.

As I said earlier, there is a danger of conservation issues becoming "done to death" just as political correctness has, with it's subsequent swing to the right.

The way to persuade is by reasoned argument, not by innuendo or "force feeding". The latter invariably produce an opposite response to what is expected. If I misread the intent of your quote, then I apologise.

cheers

kev

[Cloud_9]

personaly i cant see the point of targeting Sharks but i have only caught shovelies as bycatch, but can understand the buzz of the reel screaming like there's no tomorrow and not knowing whats on the end of your line, till u see colour. but its EACH TO THEIR OWN. till there protected
my best effort is 10Kg shovel on 2Kg line, 45 minite fight and we chased the thing all over the pin before it was gaffed it ( for Food )
people will always be bagged here for doing somthing that others don't understand or agree with, Me included.
here's my shovel

[SeaHunt]

Who's ya mate who forgot his dacks?

[ba229]

lol
i thought the same thing :-)
maybe they force fed them to the ray to quieten it down

[bidkev]

Watcha stood on Cloud 9? Scales?

2 kilo line eh? Crackerjack! The luck of the draw with some of these shovellies is how they can sometimes break higher class line and at other times they can't. Nine out of 10 of 'em always seem to have the line tucked under their wing which is why so many break-offs occur due to abrasion. That one of mine was caught on Sandgate pier on a size 1 hook.....it sure was fun "walking" it to the beach :-)

cheers

kev

[Big_Kev]

Thats a younger looking Jamie.
I am not sure if the hair is longer now or shorter but.
Good catch to for the line class.

[phewy]

Kingtin, no apology nessessary. I just dont think its right that people go out especially looking for trophys to hang on walls and dumping the carcasses (seen it done) when there done with no intention of keeping it for food purposes. And then keep trying to out do it. Its no different to those knobhead big game hunters with their trophy (heads on plaques) laden walls, but as I said before each to his own I suppose.

[BladeRunner]

Well done Kev every one wont's to have there pic in the post, as soon as I can shrink my pics down to under 100KB I might post a couple.
Soon the way of the future If not already TAG& RELEASE Might be the go for the amount you can keep, Bag Limit dose not way up to the amount of fule you can use. Like any sport there is always money involved. Nice posts Every one .Fishing is still fun no mater how hard it gets . [smiley=bandana.gif]

[bidkev]

Kingtin, no apology nessessary. I just dont think its right that people go out especially looking for trophys to hang on walls and dumping the carcasses (seen it done) when there done with no intention of keeping it for food purposes. And then keep trying to out do it. Its no different to those knobhead big game hunters with their trophy (heads on plaques) laden walls, but as I said before each to his own I suppose.

OK phewy, I'm with you now. Usenet is funny that way....without body language and tone of voice, it's not easy to know if you're being knocked or not.

I'm not into "trophies" either. I just enjoy the acheivements. I know what you mean though......if you keep a "trophy" and then a bigger fish comes along, then the first trophy becomes redundant and on it goes, till there's no trophies left to hunt.

cheers

kev

[phewy]

Cool!