Shame L#@!$%# Marine Posts were removed

[mark221263]

It's a shame when a topic gets so caught up with emotion that gets in the way of just pure fact.

Was interesting reading though and I’m sure there was truth from both sides.

Many people had plenty to comment on though, having lived in the area for 20 years I’ve never seen a yard change or loose the agency for so may brands of boat or outboard.

Like they say, if one person says you’re an A%$# hole then its probably not true and just a personal conflict, if a lot of people say it then it’s more than likely true.

Please keep any replies to just fact.

[rajawolf]

Wonder who applied pressure to have the thread gagged and why?

[gropeher]

Having had personal experiences with this mob that were far from pleasurable, I can say I would side with Shane on this one.
Still a shame its been gagged though as the previouis poster noted..

[fishingnottake]

i still thought it was valid, the problem was LM just didnt have a valid response, and could only reply though innuendo and misdirection, when that didnt work obviously they appealed to a higher power, and tried to cover their tracks.

[rajawolf]

Shame shame shame.................

[seabug]

Early today there was a post from Bob asking Shane to put up the invoice showing $2200+ paid and nothing owing.

Shane had earlier claimed that the bill was $2700+
He claimed to have paid in full

Seems the whole story was beyond belief.
Best leave them to sort it out.
Regards
Seabug

[ShaneJ]

I was one to ask for the threads to be removed!
I only received my Ausfish stickers a few days ago, and there was no way I was going to put them on my boat while those two threads were viewable to the public. It was embarrassing and shameful the way some people were acting, and I don't want to be seen as part of it!
Not one bit of factual information was supplied in either thread, yet some people were to happy to take sides and bag one or the other!

[88fishframe]

What the !!!!

[rajawolf]

Seabug,

Thanks for that info...

Cheers mate!

[fishingnottake]

how can someone who;s not the orgional poster ask to have it deleted?

[fishingnottake]

Early today there was a post from Bob asking Shane to put up the invoice showing $2200+ paid and nothing owing.

Shane had earlier claimed that the bill was $2700+
He claimed to have paid in full

Seems the whole story was beyond belief.
Best leave them to sort it out.
Regards
Seabug

this is exactly why the posts should NOT of been deleted, there's no way to go back and check iif thats what shane ever claimed? which going by the stuff i have printed it as of 12:00 last night he hadn;t. nor shanes reply to bob's request, there was nothing offensive about the posts, it was a valid discussion, and if what seabug says is true then it might of actually assited to bring a balance to what had gone before, now there is no chance of that happening i hate to say it but with out some valid reason behind the request this just smacks of censorship for the sake of censorship.
ash

[gogecko]

cmon guys, you have to back ausfish and steve on this one.

Although I wanted to see what was said by LM too (missed it by a few hours), I can see why it was deleted.

Censorship? No way. It was covering our backside. This issue has all the hallmarks of possibly going to court. Although the webmaster can claim hes not responsible for members comments, theres been a couple of decisions that put that in doubt.

In the Napster mp3 case, the usa courts found a webmaster WAS responsible for what members did. The palintiffs sued him into bankruptcy. Theres a couple of oz cases pending with sony vs some websites right now, where our judges may follow suit.

You cant blame ausfish for protecting the site that we all love.

Someone should have copy/pasted the thread into Word, and passed it on by email to those who were interested. Then the site wouldnt be responsible.

How can you be ashamed to show ausfish stickers??? Thats weird.

cheers
Andrew

[finding_time]

I was one to ask for the threads to be removed!
I only received my Ausfish stickers a few days ago, and there was no way I was going to put them on my boat while those two threads were viewable to the public. It was embarrassing and shameful the way some people were acting, and I don't want to be seen as part of it!
Not one bit of factual information was supplied in either thread, yet some people were to happy to take sides and bag one or the other!

Shane J the moral crusader that's a fairly sanctimonious post shane. >

Ian

[mark221263]

I totally understand gogeko's point of view, last thing we want is ausfish getting caught up in someone else's legal fights.

The good thing with sites like this is we can all learn from others mistakes, experiances and good ideas.

keep up the good work ausfish, but boy, I wish I got to read all of the posts prior to them being removed.

[revs57]

I think we all want to support our mate...

Shane knows the overwhelming majority of us are in his corner...We have had the benefit of a "heads up" about this one which was his point...I must admit as one who had participated with expressing my strong displeasure at a fellow Ausfisher being ripped off...I was concerned at where the discussion was going...and what good could come hammering it out here...

I can see the wisdom in Ausfish's response...it makes sence and is responsible moderating of this media to avoid the building of urban myth one way or the other rather than censorship for censorship's sake IMO...particlularly now it seems the legal beagles are involved.

Well done Steve and the Ausfish Mod's...and keep up the good work...this forum is worth protecting...

cheers

Rhys