Help a Newb buy a first boat

[joffa007]

hi again anyways back at the deeler today and there is a nice quintrex estuary angler down there. It is a 2004 model with a yamaha 30hp cv on it.
The guy reckons it has done about 50hrs but that is only a guess. they want $12500 for it. is this a ok price. Not sure whether to stretch the budget to this or just get a new dory 420 for $8500. The guy was saying they are the same hull anyway. Is it worth the extra money for the angler.

Anyone else in melb selling anything similar to the angler let me know.

Thanks geoff

[joey_1987]

Hey, if you look on the Quintrex website, www.quintrex.com.au, you will find that the 420 estuary angler is $13,785 new, with a 40hp mariner (pretty good motor) and 3 yrs warranty on the lot. You will find these online prices to be inflated too, for example, my boat, stacer 3.95m seasprite was listed at $5950 on the stacer website with only a 15hp (i got a 30hp with mine) and no extras (i got nav lights, free service) for $5800. For some reason more hp=less $$. I would recommend my boat, especially for rivers and lakes, but for PPB, in either a 3.95m or a 4.2m, as soon as a little bit of wind picks up and white caps appear, it's home time for you. Depending on how many people you want to have onboard, you could save $$ by buying the boat I got, ample power, good on fuel, high sides, feels safe. But then a 4.2m would be safer, but needs more hp and more $$ of course. Joey.

[JEWIENEWIE]

hey joffa, i bought my tinny not that along ago with a secondhand motor, and have had nothing but trouble since, advice i was given was that a boat is only as good as its motor, buy secondhand boat, buy new motor for it. hassle free boating, wish i had taken it, anyone want to buy a 25hp jono, cheap!
JN

[joey_1987]

Hey, yeah I agree with Jewienewie, 2nd hand motors are risky to buy in many cases. For me, I could have had a late model 2nd hand package for about $800 less, I decided to go new. And especially when the price difference is so small. Joey.

[joffa007]

yeah im thinking of just getting a dory package. one dealer will give it to me for $8400 drive away painted with a yammy cv 30. another was saying $8000 with a 25 suzuki.

[joey_1987]

Hey, what i don't get is why the dory is so much more expensive-$2000+ than the 3.95m. It is slightly bigger, offered with the same size engine though. This is what steered me away from it. Also, depending on how many people you want to have on the boat, max hp may be needed. I know with 4 people on my I really appreciate the 30hp. For you to go to a 40hp will add a considerable amount of extra $$ to the package. Do you need a depth sounder/fishfinder for your new boat? I bought a garmin ff250 for a fellow fishnetter but there were problems and he couldn't buy it off me, so i'm out of pocket for a $310 fishfinder. It retails at $580 and is an excellent unit, easy to use. Otherwise i don't know what i will do, i don't really want to lose $310 . Have you rang fleetmarine and asked them about a package price? Stacer's are quite a bit cheaper than Quintrex's i have found. Joey.

[joey_1987]

Hey, to avoid confusion, about the 'fellow fishnetter' statement, i am also a member of fishnet because this is the big victorian fishing website with forums on it down here, similar to ausfish. Joey.

[sf17fisherman]

well back to the 385 for a moment
i have a 385 throphy and i have found it to be a fine boat
sure when the chop does get up a fiar bit it starts to bang but up past 1 foot i'm still WOT over the chop

i have also taken this boat outside fishing on the nicer days fishing the closer reefs in 20 meters but only within a short run to the river to be on the safe side

all this but i still doun't recomend unless you have a very good feel for your boating and know your limits and what you can have your boat do

however for PPB i would recomend something atleast 4.5 meters with a prefrence for a 5meter vessle and also go with the biggest motor you can go for not the biggest boat with the smallest motor as it is the motor that get you out of harms way

[joffa007]

well went for a a bit of a drive today to a stacer dealer for $6700 can get a 420 seahorse with a 30 mariner unpainted drive away. or $5300 for a 3.95 seaspirit with a 15 marine. are these motors as good as yammies.

[joey_1987]

Hey, the 395 is the boat i have, for about $5500 you could get the same boat with a 30hp mariner. This motor is a rebadged Tohatsu. If you want a motor that will last for a long long time, reliable, good on fuel, and easy to use, go this one. Similar running to the 30hp yamaha CV. There are two models of 15hp, one is the standard american model, the other is a 15hp 'super', a detuned tohatsu 18hp, also a very good motor. Which dealer did you go to? If you are getting the 395, i would go with the 30hp. More power is better than less. If you ever want somebody to show you the ropes, let me know, i'll be more than happy. Joey.

[mickstar001]

Joffa, was in the same boat as you 3 months ago he he, i picked up a Quintrex 445 Dory 3 years old with a 40 Yamaha with appx 50 Hours work, including sounders built in tackle box and glove box seats boat cover etc etc for $7250. Brought it sight unseen (got the motor checked out tho) from airliee beach FNQ. Been to PFB when she's chopped up and if i were you i'd go a little bigger - mine has massive sides and is extremely stable with 3 people in her. Spend the time to find one which is 2-3 yrs old and has been looked after extremely well - you'll save $$$. Best of luck buddy.

Mick

[mickstar001]

Oh Joffa if you want any pics lemme know

[uripper]

First boat buying suggestions

1. stay with popular brands/models – they usually are the better packages & resell better when you want to upgrade or change style etc
2. go for simple open boat with tiller steer – max bang for buck - that 420 Dory would be great learner & have great flexibility of use
3. resist gadgets, extras, toys, & focus on the basics – trailer + hull + motor – KISS principle
4. go for a water test – offer $50 – it a cheap investment – you will learn a lot about the rig
5. get independent check by reputable marine mechanic – a $200 service is again a cheap investment (PM me if your buying Brisbane Northside)
6. don’t hesitate to walk away if any of the above don’t gel - $250 spent avoiding a disaster is a bargain
7. remember the old adage “a boat is a hole in the water you pour money into” – stick with the above & it’ll stay a small hole
8. a bargain usually isn’t – with $7K budget you can buy something in good condition that has a lot of life left & will resell OK

Good Luck - Mal M

[joffa007]

I have found a nice boat on ebay i like here http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....EWA%3APIC&rd=1

But i am in Melbourne and it is up near wollongong whats the best way to go about buying a boat from interstate ? Why are boats so much cheaper up north than in melb.

[rough_shag]

Hi al straddie,I know you were talking tongue in cheek about stretching your v-sea out but mate seafarer made an older design called the 'Viking' which was slightly bigger than your v-sea and later they upsized them to the mk2 5.5mtr cuddy cabin which has tonnes of fishing space.
See ya on the bay sometime.Cheers!.Jace.