hi, i was wondering if anyone can give me some feedback on the new evinrude e-tec engines, i have been thinking of getting one on the new boat, a bluefin phantom 475. i have read that the e-tec doesent need a service for three years and that there is no break-in period for the engine. they sound pretty good.
thanks from lanks
heard they are pretty good 1st service 300hrs
was looking so i spoke to my mechanic
he said they are still having a few problems
so im waiting
cheers pete
Check www.boatpoint.com.au, they have lots of E-tec reviews there in the engine reviews section. Also consider the EFI 4 strokes around, you won't go back to a 2 stroke, quiet, good on fuel, reliable. Joey.
I think you will find there is a fine print re: 300hours.
I am interested to know what the E-tec owners think there 2nd service will be after the first 300 hour one?? especially seeing it will be out of warranty
Be a brave boaty to go another 300 for service number 2
Garry
Garry
Retired Honda Master Tech
Lanks,
I have a e-tec 90hp on a Bluefin and can't complain about it. Appears to do everything that has been reported. I had many sleepless nights before I made the decision, 4stoke or e-tec.
Don't worry about what all the other (supposedly) experts say in regards to them knowing someone or what they heard.
Mainly listen to people who have one and their experiences. I'm not pushing the e-tec bandwagon, I'd be happy with a 4 stroke as well. I personally like the weight difference and the sleek look it has on the boat. I had a 60efi 4 stroke on the boat before this one and thought it was an outstanding motor as well.
All motors sold today are good, I could find you a bad story about any motor they sell today and e-tec of course falls into this catergory.
E-tec is reasonably new which can scare alot of people (which is fine) Go for what you want, it might be the look of the motor, weight, fuel consumption etc.
Last but not least, even though they say a 300 hr service, there is nothing stopping you getting a service at 100 hrs if you want. The 300 is only what is recommended. For me, I will have them look at it every 12months just for peace of mind. As I would do with any motor I owned.
You will be happy with whatever you decide.
Regards
Peter
:tilt up down solarnoids, gaskets, hour meters,fuel leak,now dry seized at grand total of 125 hours other motor probabley won t be long to follow, i say stay well away anything but these. warranty well these days are warrantys worth the paper there written on you tell me stay with yammy!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats what i will be buying when i can afford 2 new ones once these glorified anchors are removed!!!!
Dam that is what my E-tec does alsoOriginally Posted by joey_1987
Lanks,
I know you're not in the market for a 200HP,but here's the latest results for a 200HP shootout from the U.S. between Etec,Optimax & VMAX.
WOT fuel useage:
OptiMax = 17.5 GPH
V MAX HPDI = 18.1 GPH
E-TEC H. O. = 20.1 GPH
Average Fuel Economy:
OptiMax = 5.8 MPG
V MAX HPDI = 5.5 MPG
E-TEC H. O. = 4.4 MPG
0-30 MPH acceleration:
V MAX HPDI = 6.7 seconds
OptiMax = 7.6 seconds
E-TEC H. O. = 8.2 seconds
40-60 mid range acceleration:
OptiMax = 6.8 seconds
V MAX HPDI = 7.4 seconds
E-TEC H. O. = 7.6 seconds
Top Speed:
E-TEC H. O. = 74.5 MPH
OptiMax = 73.9 MPH
V MAX HPDI = 73.9 MPH
G'day
Well with those stats, go the opti
Dave
If you look on boatpoint reviews, you will find that the E-tec uses a lot more fuel than its 4 stroke and Optimax competitors, even more than tohatsu's TLDI. Sure the E-tec is better than a regular 2 stroke, but not the best. Joey.
Fishy9999,
I've got a 90HP E-Tec.
As yet, the only problem I've had is with the tilt, but my local dealer fixed that easily, said it was just an adjustment.
Is there anything I should look out for with the other problems? If something is going to go wrong, I want to know if I can notice it early.
How do you mean dry seized? I've never heard of it.
Is it BRP that are not providing the warranty, or your local dealer?
I notice you said you have 2 of them. What have you got them on? Do you used them much?
Sorry if I'm asking a lot of questions, but it's better to be safe than sorry.
Thanks
Geoff
If you do a search through this and other forums you will find a few people who must be really dealers in disguise who have one mission and that is to bash ETEC's and tell people how crap they are. Get out there and speak to people who own them, or call dealers who sell both ETEC's and Yamaha's and see what they have to say. Plenty of people are worried as since the ETEC's have arrived they have seriously dented the sales of 4 strokes, and competition can be an ugly thing.
For my 2 bob worth, the ETEC craps on any competitor (especially in the 4 stroke range) up to 100HP, and above that I would start looking at the others as well (once you get to the big engines, from my experience with them the ETEC's don't have the same overall advantage). Personally, at 200HP I would be definantly looking at a 4 stroke, but would consider the Optimax and maybe the ETEC depending on price.
This is from someone who has owned both 2 and 4 strokes, and has driven a few different types now. If you are looking for a 75/90HP engine, then go on the figures for that engine and not what the stats say about the 200. From personal experience I can tell you a 75 or 90 ETEC leaves the competitors for dead in terms of acceleration, and is also better on the fuel (but I have not compared them with the Optimax, just 4's).
Another local here has about 280 hours now and is about to get the service done. He has not had to spend a cent since he had it, and it has never missed a beat. Will report back when his service is complete as to what it may have turned up.
I have been following this and similar emails on this forum with great interest. A lot of hear-say, threats of lawsuits, some good solid arguments and facts etc. Mind if I throw an extra penny in the pot?
The only comment I can make is that the Bommy's have finally made their appearance in the Arabian Gulf. You think that the Darwin / Townsville environment is tough on an engine, then come try things out here. Middle of summer sees temperatures in the fifties with 95% humidity. In close near the sand flats the water temperature can easily reach 34 degrees. I am talking about open ocean water temperature here, in deeper it gets down to about 28 degrees on the good days. Not many fish around and you have to travel far off shore to find them.Not a good place to be an outboard engine.
What always amazes me is the way in which the local fisherman treat their boats, and particularly their engines. At the end of the day they will pull in to the harbour, tilt up the engine and bugger off home. No washing down, no rincing, no salt-x nada......
Every six months they will change the impeller, sparkplugs, oil and filters - If they have had a good season at that point in time. That is the sum total of the maintenance a boat will see that gets run to the ground on a daily basis.
What is interesting to note is the amount of old engines still going strong. I did notice a couple of guys who tried the new Bommies, but at the end of the season the engines have been replaced with the same engines that are hanging of the back of almost all of the boats. (Best gues about 95%)
You can throw rocks at me for saying this, but I will rather wait and see what this "new technology" is up to before I will invest in them. Until then, the locals and myself will stick to our Yammies thank you. If these guys struggle to break an engine, then it must be good.
Regards
Wessel
Fishy9999,
Come on fishy9999, tell us about all the problems with your 2 x 90 e-tec motors.
Peter
I'm tending to agree with Trigger.
Fishy9999, are you a dealer that sells an opposition product?
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