Kiktz if he has the same boat as me then he wont need to look at another 1
Kiktz if he has the same boat as me then he wont need to look at another 1
TY YOU KNOW IT.................... As I do. GO the '06 Commerical Hull I Say
He was asked along for opion sake.......... I guess he got an opion NOW.
also i didn't mean to put the skipper down in a negative way, its just that every hull is different and reacts differently, in those conditions "MAYBE" he's used to throwing the coastal cat around doing high speed full lock turns ect.. and this hull couldn't do what he is used too or expects to be perfectly safe in his own boat.
ty
The Roll'inator
I will have to agree with kiktz, the driver of the Roll'nator has many years experience in boats, and easily 2000hrs in his own cat. He is not an idot or reckless driver. He has experienced terrible weahter many a times when fishing, he has crossed a number of bars and is a very good skipper, he has the up most respect for the ocean. I was as shocked as you Kiktz, to hear of this accident, flipping a 7m Cat in the bay, in 1 to 1.5m of chop. I really can't say it's an accident, not if it has happened a few times before,I beleive that is a design issue. The Roll'inator makes my mono look good.
G'day
anyone have any more news on this?
Dave
No-ones talking, i'd guess theres insurance involved...
G'day
Fair enough then and totaly understandable
Dave
Any photos of the aftermath? I didn't see it in any papers or on the news. I had been following the other posts of down south for the last couple of months also, but again, there is no hard evidence.
Until I see it for myself I have a bit of doubt about this event.
I'm sure it could happen, but it's all heresay at this point isn't it?
Darren
"I'm sure it could happen, but it's all heresay at this point isn't it?"
I am sure some people think it is HERESY
Regards
Seabug
Darren - I can confirm that I saw the stock 7m Dominator with the hondas down in the workshop at Northside. The hardtop was crushed down to the gunnels on the port side of the cat. It defintley happened 100%Originally Posted by boatboy50
Cheers
Greg
Darren - I can confirm that I saw the stock 7m Dominator with the hondas down in the workshop at Northside. The hardtop was crushed down to the gunnels on the port side of the cat. It defintley happened 100%
Cheers
Greg
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Saw same....
Hi Guys, Gotta tell you the dominator knockers/armchair experts wouldn't know where the proverbial train was. They wouldn't know the story until the people started getting off, ouch. I am 50 years old and have been in boats since nappies, have a long family hisory with comercial/ amatuer boats and my brother is currently skipper of arguably the biggest cat on the east coast of Australia. Fair to say we're a sea-going family. I've had 35 years experience in mono-hulls and cats. Admittedly, cats the lesser. I recently ditched my ever so reliable Haines Hunter Prowler for a 7m Dominator. I spent 6 months carrying out my due diligence between Kevla, Noosa and Dominator cats. The final split was between a Noosa and a Dominator. It was like trying to split fords and Holdens at Bathurst but in the end the raised helm, the asymetrical handling characteristics, lounge area for the missus and huge fishing area for me put the Dominator ahead of the Noosa cat marginally. I have now 100 hours up, the first 20 never being under 20 knots and a couple of runs across the bay verging on 30. I took every trip ever so gently as I gained confidence in what I can describe as an absolutely unbelievable Ferrari of the sea. They have unique handling characteristics that no other Australian designed cat has achieved to this day; they turn like a mono and punch like a cat. They are indeed a unique design. My last outside trip, i headed up to Cape Moreton in a 30 knot Northerly with 5 happy fishos aboard bagged out and laughing I hit the cape on an outgoing tide in conditions that I could only describe as true crap and the last 100 hours I've had my girl in beam seas, aft beam seas, front on, you name it - its been there, and never once felt unsafe. The NSW coppers tested these boats for hundreds of hours before they purchased 10 animals and I also questioned owners in WA, Tasmania and Foxy here in QLD before I switched my Haines for the Dominator, and now I have a question for the knockers: The guy behind the wheel had absolutely no experience whatsoever in this superbly designed and handling craft and yet it rolled in a metre of sea after just a few minutes behind the wheel and after travelling only a couple of km. Give us a break, come on get your hand off it. Could there be just a minute possibility that there was some driver error because boats like this dont make mistakes, but drivers often do.
Cheers,
Dirty Al
G'day Al,
It is good to finally see an expert opinion on the subject, because as you infer ... us poorer, uneducated fisher folk that sadly don't have your 35 years experience, or the money to buy one of these Ferrari's of the sea, wouldnt know anything about the subject.
And that is why so many inexperienced skippers that have somehow managed to come home through these exact conditions in their older, smaller, less seaworthy humble craft would turn to you and ask more of your invaluable expertise .... if for no other reason than just to lessen the shock of this incident.
We would gladly defer to, and welcome, your expert opinion in this matter ... as we are all soul searching for answers.
If you could kindly take the time to explain to us the benefits of the asymetrical planing hull of the Dominator, as compared to the symetrical semi displacement hull of the older 7m Sharkcat, as compared to a 7m Monohull, and conclude by answering the posed question:
How the F##K does anyone, experienced or not, roll a 7m Cat in a metre of chop?
Cheers
Pete
er ..... I'm with Pete, Al---??
Tony
pete,
buy me a 7m dominator and well find out!!!!!!
maybe a tight turn at 30 knots in 25 to 30 knot winds could get the cat unstuck.
I remember when first joining this site about a 26 foot black watch that rolled coming into the seaway, which coped a wave from the back and flipped it over.
either way its a shocking incident that really needs investigating irrespective of driver experience.
What the F was the fella from northside doing at the time this driver decided to roll it?
my two cents
andrew
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