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  1. #46
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    So, whats the latest Eagle Eye?

  2. #47
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    got a mate with 140 suzy"s on 2700 series noosa cat suprisingly goes well 36 knots good economy ,could do with some more ponies out of the hole.would be a great match for the 660 keep the stern light i think although the 150 yammies are a great engine you dont want the extra weight or need that extra hp & added fuel consumption.I think there a better match for a 2700series

    cheers

  3. #48
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Check the specs I posted earlier soulfish

    Quote Originally Posted by Kopey
    Suzuki DF150/175: 211kgs, 2867cc's
    Honda BF135/150: 217kgs, 2354 cc's
    Yamaha 150 4strk: 212kgs, 2670 cc's
    The 150 Suzis not only lighter than the Yamie 150 but has bigger displacement and has camchains instead of a belt which lasts alot longer (less maintance).

    Cheers Adam

  4. #49
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Any update yet on those Suzi's Eagle Eye?

  5. #50
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Quote Originally Posted by Col_s
    [quote author=Eagle Eye link=1159750366/30#40 date=1160541915]
    Eagle Eye.......Just wondering why the guys at Haines Suzuki haven't heard of these so called Suzuki failings especially with the 115 going pop ???
    I am buggered if I know, it only happened on the weekend, as far as I know, the dealer hasnt started work on it yet.

    Eagle Eye ...Keep us up to date on it please

    Cheers Col[/quote]

    As with Col_s and others here, keep us up to date on it please




  6. #51
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    As Kevlacat and VMR rescue groups have found, the Suzi 4 strokers make a great match with cats.

  7. #52

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Anybody who requires 4S parts there is apparently an outboard wrecking mob in Townsville with them coming out of their ears.

    The thought is this is the first indication now that 4S are getting some years on them that 4S repair costs have gone though the roof and wrecking is the better alternative.

    Regards, Kerry.

  8. #53
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    One customer here I might see every now and then (Steve Haley Brown pro crabber) has over 4000 hours on his 2 x DF115's, might check the pumps every 500 hours, change oils and filters every 200 and does the majority of maintenance himself, still has 180-190 PSI compression every cylinder so is far from wrecking his.

  9. #54

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    But then they not broke are they? and when they are broke he will replace them with new ones, won't he?

    The thing is when they are broke many are now finding it is simply too expensive to repair them and simply lifting them.

    Lets face it if users installed genuine OMC oil filters and the recommended oil it works out at about 100 bucks just for an oil change.

    Many only look at the exterior not at the interior. Like how dumb is it to design an outboard and not be able to remove the bottom spark plug without having to remove basically the entire fairing assembly (from the bottom up). Yes it's your favourite OMC/Suzzie 140 4S!

    Regards, Kerry.

  10. #55
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Yeah it takes me a whole minute to remove them and probably 5 minutes absolute tops for your average joe to pull them apart!

    Ever tried getting at the plugs in a DI 2 stroke V6 Optimax???

  11. #56
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    At least Suzuki mechanics never have to go fishing for bolts dropped down in between bottom cowls like alot of motors.

  12. #57
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry
    Lets face it if users installed genuine OMC oil filters and the recommended oil it works out at about 100 bucks just for an oil change.
    And how much does the 2 stroke oil work out to per 100 hours??

  13. #58
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry
    Many only look at the exterior not at the interior. Like how dumb is it to design an outboard and not be able to remove the bottom spark plug without having to remove basically the entire fairing assembly (from the bottom up). Yes it's your favourite OMC/Suzzie 140 4S!
    How dumb is it to design an engine that you have to pull the starter motor off to get at the gearshift linkage to drop the gearbox - 40/50 OMC 2 stroke carbed, or takes you half an hour sometimes to get the gearshift linkage back in place on some of the OMC V4 & V6's?

    How dumb is it to design an engine that has not been fully tested properly before released and send you broke: Ficht.

    How clever is it to design an engine with an offset driveshaft so you can swing larger diameter props to give better holeshot and superior thrust (great for cats) without having to have a bigger less streamlined gearcase (i.e bigfoot) or running camchains under the powerhead that run in a constant oil bath and last the life of the engine and makes a 4 stroke outboard that only weighs 186kgs and puts out 140 horsepower. Yes I'm talking about the Suzi DF140.

  14. #59

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    ....offset driveshaft so you can swing larger diameter props to give better holeshot and superior thrust (great for cats)....
    Your not all that clued up on Cats are you

    You know there are pro's and con's with everything and now I'm waiting for the statement that says a 4S fuel consumption pays for the initial cost and service difference

    And obviously you've a workshop jock and never had to pull the plugs at sea See you have too look beyond all the brochures and gooble gook sales blurbs as the real world is something quite different.

    Regards, Kerry.

  15. #60
    Ausfish Silver Member
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    I repowered the Hervey bay 24ft Noosa cat VMR rescue cat here with 2 x DF225's, a 28ft Powercat 2 x DF225's (owner Adam Vieglas), a 29ft Streamline cat 2 x DF140's (Toby Pholy's), a 24ft Kevlacat 2 x DF140's (Dan Smith Hotondo homes) just to name a few.

    How many cats have you repowered Kerry that makes you such an expert?


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