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  1. #16

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Just for the record

    I have just taken 2 x 140 suzis off a 7m Haines and put 2 x 150 Hondas on it.

    The Boat now has an extra 10klm per hour speed increase accross the rpm range with an extra 15klm at WOT. The owner has boasted about a significant fuel saving and they are a fair bit quieter.



    Garry
    Garry

    Retired Honda Master Tech

  2. #17

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard_King
    Just for the record

    I have just taken 2 x 140 suzis off a 7m Haines and put 2 x 150 Hondas on it.

    The Boat now has an extra 10klm per hour speed increase accross the rpm range with an extra 15klm at WOT. The owner has boasted about a significant fuel saving and they are a fair bit quieter.



    Garry
    why did he take off the Suzy's ? did he mention any weight issue ?
    are they now for sale ? and do you have details of hours condition etc ?
    they might be a good alternative for me

  3. #18

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Hi Julian,

    They have 800 hours on them and are in very good condition. There is no weight issues as the Hondas that went on weigh more than the suzis. they may be sold, I will check for you.

    PM me with your phone number and location please

    Garry
    Garry

    Retired Honda Master Tech

  4. #19

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    i have 2 140 hp suzis on the back of my new kevla cat and coud not be more happy with the performance out of the hole , and top speed. The same with our last boat which had twin 250 suzis on a 38 foot flybridge kevlacat ,which also had blistering speed out of the hole ,and speed to burn. The 140 hp suzis at 4000 rpm pushes my boat at (depending on load) 25Knots variable to 5600rpm to 41 knots variable. iI usually sit on about 4200- 4300 which returns me about 20ltrs per hour per engine, which makes for a very economical running across the wide bay bar and out two the shelf and all areas in between. I think for price, fuel consumption, performance,service backup,it is a safe bet on the suzis . Maybe the 150 suzies are even worth considering??

  5. #20

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Just some food for thought:

    Suzuki DF150/175: 211kgs, 2867cc's
    Honda BF135/150: 217kgs, 2354 cc's
    Yamaha 150 4strk: 212kgs, 2670 cc's

    If it came down to performance I'd know who I'd be backing. No substitue for cubic inches and whats more the suzis are lighter as well. All good engines by no means, good reliable trustworthy fourstrokers.

    Go the Suzis!! Cheers Ads

  6. #21
    Croweater
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    I posted this on a different thread earlier, thought it would be appropriate here.

    I gotta 175 E-tec on my Trailcraft 660 Sports cab, best motor I ever had so far. It replaced a 2005 model Suzuki 175 which got me towed home 4 times since February. I was going to use it as an anchor but dec=ided better and traded it in.

    The E-tec is quieter, better off the mark, seems to be better on fuel (I dont keep records) and I also get about 5 knots more out of the rig at WOT.


  7. #22

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Julian check your PM's
    Garry

    Retired Honda Master Tech

  8. #23

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard_King
    Julian check your PM's
    I have - thanks Spaniard King

  9. #24

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    How exactly did the Suzuki fail Eagle Eye? i.e seizure, gearbox, fuel probs, over-propped? Just curious, I've fitted quite a few DF175's now and every owner we've had with them are impressed.

    Info if possible appreciated thanks
    Cheers Ads #

  10. #25
    Croweater
    Guest

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    First two times was something to do with the fuel injection. Third time a bolt on top of the starter motor came undone so that the thing that pops up and turns the big cog thing wouldnt I line up properly. The last time it was a fuel injection problem again.

    As you can see i know stuff all about mechanics. I know how to do the basics Check & fill oil, sparkplugs etc but after that I am very limited which is why I need a motor I can rely on.

    Ive got a mate with a 3 month old DF 115 which I heard went 'pop' on the weekend. aw him at the local on saturday night and he is not happy. Not sure yet of the problem, the dealer is 100k's away and he was taking it there this morning. I will let you know when I hear something

  11. #26
    Sportfish_5
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    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Hope you were touching wood


    Tic Toc Tic Toc

  12. #27

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye
    First two times was something to do with the fuel injection. Third time a bolt on top of the starter motor came undone so that the thing that pops up and turns the big cog thing wouldnt #I #line up properly. The last time it was a fuel injection problem again.

    As you can see i know stuff all about mechanics. I know how to do the basics Check & fill oil, sparkplugs etc but after that I am very limited which is why I need #a motor I can rely on.

    Ive got a mate with a 3 month old DF 115 which I heard went 'pop' on the weekend. aw him at the local on saturday night and he is not happy. Not sure yet of the problem, the dealer is 100k's away and he was taking it there this morning. I will let you know when I hear something
    Interesting Eagle Eye, and yet in Rod_Bender's case with the Townville VMR pulling in 6 Etecs as told from his experience, that was just heresay and BS just like anybody that says something you don't like here. Like Rod_Bender said on the last post that just got deleted,"Ring them for yourself."

    And then we've got your mate's got a DF115 that went "pop", so he was tellin you at the pub on Saturday night. Yeah mate, no worries. Do tell us more.



  13. #28

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye
    Townsville Coast Guard obviously doesnt cover that area???



  14. #29

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle Eye
    First two times was something to do with the fuel injection. Third time a bolt on top of the starter motor came undone so that the thing that pops up and turns the big cog thing wouldnt #I #line up properly. The last time it was a fuel injection problem again.

    As you can see i know stuff all about mechanics.
    Hitachi starter motors are used on about 99% of all Japanese outboards out there and I must say this is the first time I've heard one play up so early.

    Eagle Eye, was the fuel injection problem you had caused by ingestion of water or dirt, or was it something else? #

  15. #30
    Croweater
    Guest

    Re: 4 strokes for a Cat

    Quote Originally Posted by Kopey
    [quote author=Eagle Eye link=1159750366/15#24 date=1160348134]First two times was something to do with the fuel injection. Third time a bolt on top of the starter motor came undone so that the thing that pops up and turns the big cog thing wouldnt #I #line up properly. The last time it was a fuel injection problem again.

    As you can see i know stuff all about mechanics. I know how to do the basics Check & fill oil, sparkplugs etc but after that I am very limited which is why I need #a motor I can rely on.

    Ive got a mate with a 3 month old DF 115 which I heard went 'pop' on the weekend. aw him at the local on saturday night and he is not happy. Not sure yet of the problem, the dealer is 100k's away and he was taking it there this morning. I will let you know when I hear something
    Interesting Eagle Eye, and yet in Rod_Bender's case with the Townville VMR pulling in 6 Etecs as told from his experience, that was just heresay and BS just like anybody that says something you don't like here. Like Rod_Bender said on the last post that just got deleted,"Ring them for yourself."

    And then we've got your mate's got a DF115 that went "pop", so he was tellin you at the pub on Saturday night. Yeah mate, no worries. # #Do tell us more. #


    [/quote]

    Kopey,

    You have just confirmed to me what I gather other people on this forum have already confirmed - YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

    For a start, it wasnt me who made those comments about Rod_Bender's story being heresay and/or BS. I dont remember who it was, but it definitly wasnt me.

    Secondly, I have a mate who I have known since we went to school together who now has his motor at the dealership with a stuffed gearbox, waiting for Suzuki to ok the warranty work. They have had the hide to ask whether the motor was over-propped, even though the prop on it is the one it came with.


    How exactly did the Suzuki fail Eagle Eye? i.e seizure, gearbox, fuel probs, over-propped? Just curious, I've fitted quite a few DF175's now and every owner we've had with them are impressed.

    Info if possible appreciated thanks
    You pretend to be a genuine seeker of knowledge, and when someone says something you dont like, you get p!ssed and very critical at them.

    Look, I know you are anti E-tec, but just because someone has a bad experience with the product you endorse, dont start being critical of them.

    Eagle Eye, was the fuel injection problem you had caused by ingestion of water or dirt, or was it something else?
    Now you are trying to blame me for the Suzukis failings?

    I dont know what caused it, my boat has a big oil filter shaped filter on it as well as an in-line filter to guard against these things you ask about, so the quality of the fuel is and has never been a problem. It hasn't affected the E-tec anyway, and it gets its fuel from the same tanks and the same fuel lines.

    My advice to you is for you to go out, buy a big mirror and have a BLOODY GOOD LOOK AT YOURSELF!!!


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