What do you tow your boat with

[Mr__Bean]

Take the 2 off road mate and you will need the Disco to tow the Saraha out!

PMSL here.....

You Landrover guys are soooooooooooo defensive........

- Darren

[ozscott]

...no mate...we just like winding the toyo guys up!!

[IcemanII]

ozscott, sorry but the differance is so great its not worth debating, the v8 cruiser will run it into the ground in any situation and cruise on the hwy at 120 like a sports car........

[ozscott]

Clearly you have never taken them off road together - simple as that. The 100's independant front and weight take there toll very quickly when the going gets really tough - clearly Im not talking corrugated pot holed designated roads because that where the Cruiser excells.

Cheers

[TRD-70]

Navara TDI 3.0lt ST to tow a 6.1m Allycraft cuddy. PS to the people talking about the disco being great, I have towed one out everytime I have been on the beach. Last one i got out was towing a 4x3ft trailer and could not make it through a basic sandy hill track. I made the mistake due to laughing so much that i left the hand brake on the car and still towed it up the hill. Don't get me wrong I have had a landrover before and it proved to be a good old truck, but give me a Toyota or Patrol any day and I will take those car in 2wd more places than a Disco or Rangie would.

[Kerry]

Landrovers were made as a 4W drive (yes even the 4cyl ones) not as some high speed highway machine. ,Speed does not make something a good 4WD. A hafflinger is like a snail on the road but will climb a power pole sideways without its diff locks, horses for courses "as usual"

Disco's are totally over rated when it comes to towing capacity, 4 tonne MA!

Regards, Kerry.

[ozscott]

He must have not locked the Centre diff - making it one wheel drive!!!

[Kerry]

The day a haffy has to lock all diffs will be somewhere never visited by much else with wheels. As a tow vehicle not worth a pinch!

[ozscott]

I towed my brothers 2.2 tonn DUAL axle van through very soft sand on Flinders with my Disco series II V8 Manual - piece of cake. I will do it again at Easter if you want to come and watch. I got through where my brothers 89 cruiser had trouble - he had 35s on it and a LSD rear, petrol manual - and my D2 does not even have centre diff lock - it relies on its traction control and torque - the LRs V8 gets huge torque just off idle.

My 95 Disco is better in the sand again - auto and centre diff locked. I have never had trouble with the D2 in the sand, but then again driving and making the best of traction control is a skill and used properly its not unlike lockers front and rear (but naturally not quite as good). Most people with Discovery's simply dont know how to drive them. As an example a mate of mine went with me to Noosa Nth Shore one year - badly cut up soft sand (I pulled a GQ out - but that does not make GQs crap; it was the crap driver) and he thought that he didnt need to lock the centre diff - rendering it a one wheel drive; I convinced him to lock it and of course he drove it all day including at high tide on the heavy soft with no probs at all.

The discovery's main strength is proper off road work - ie forestory trails and the like; big articulation and hard going. The 100 series simply cannot cope as well in those conditions with its weak and limited independant front end - no way to change that either; sorry guys.

Cheers

[ozscott]

By the way the tow capacity is probably related to the fact that the things are built on BOX chassis not angle fellas like all other 4 bees. As such they dont twist and break with 4 tonn. And they have the lowest first low gear ratio of any of the brands which not only helps with off road work, but means that if you wanted to tow that high you could easily start in low and change on the fly. I tow 2 tonn with both mine and its a doddle.

Cheers

[Stu]

99 Ford Explorer & FM175Allison. No probs towing at all (touch wood). #

Be careful when on some ramps say for example at low tide and the rear wheels of a dual axle trailer are off the ramp and not touching anything. It will change the cantilever point forward to the front trailer axle and the leverage caused by the boat moving toward the rear of the trailer just before entering the water may take enough weight off the rear of the vehicle to let it slip slightly down the ramp. Always try and have all four trailer wheels touching the ramp. #
I always use the trailer brake as well as FWD when unloading or loading the boat. #

Cheers
Stu

[TRD-70]

Landrovers were made as a 4W drive (yes even the 4cyl ones) not as some high speed highway machine. ,Speed does not make something a good 4WD. A hafflinger is like a snail on the road but will climb a power pole sideways without its diff locks, horses for courses "as usual"

Disco's are totally over rated when it comes to towing capacity, 4 tonne MA!

Regards, Kerry.

If that is true then Landrover is doomed as they have released the Ranger Rover Sports which is designed for high speed. There is one thing that landrover has over many is that it is running very quickly out of people to bail it out, maybe one day Toyoya and Nissan will take it over and like BMW it will change the powerplant to a more reliable V8 Toyota.

[Kerry]

As a 4WD, one does not require speed or power or any of the sh!t people think they have to fit to their vehicle to make it such. Really get a laugh with what is termed a 4WD these days

[The_Walrus]

Sea Jay 4M Bass N Barra behind my 4X2 Hilux.

Great combination, even with the ute loaded with camping gear.

Luc

[ozscott]

You dont get better reliability than a Rover V8 engine. Very good units. All the blokes that spruke about them being unreliable are those that have never had one. The toyo guys in particular in me experience have the King of the Road and believe the toyo adverts. Its sad, but there you go. Its easy to criticise things when you have 'heard' about them. I will be very outnumbered on this because most people own other brands, but even the Mitsubishi guys have to put up with it. The Pajero is a better vehicle than the Prado in my opinion and yet the Prado guys dont even give any credit to the Pajeros at all - if its not Toyo (or Nissan Patrol for that matter) its the highway! Anyway...I have said my bit and tomorrow I will hook up my boat to my 230,000 klm 95 Disco that gets oil changes and filter (and a recent radiator re-core!!) and get the equivalent on LPG to 14 litres per 100 k towing 2 tonn of boat and have a quiet chuckle.

Cheers