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  1. #46

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    Just making sure you understand your poor attitude! Not a good example for people to be setting then trying to justify it by making excuses for their actions.

  2. #47

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    hmmm. So i guess that would constitute "irresonsible behaviour"? Perhaps my choice of words were somewhat innapropriate, but the setiment remains the same. If everything we do in life has to be influenced by the lowest common denominator, ie: idiots, then i see no reason why, from time to time, i cant get a little frustrated. A small percentage of the population may choose to abuse the system, but why should i pay for it? and by "pay", i dont mean in a monetary sense.

  3. #48
    Stu
    Guest

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    Got mine through Redcliffe Coastguard.
    Well worth the effort.
    Cheers
    Stu

  4. #49

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanoss
    Well first of all, would have to agree upon reflection that some of my comments were a little "off the cuff". A few too many glasses of red may have played a part. Chine, as for your question, I have no idea what the handbook would suggest i do, but surely offering assistance of any descriiption if no other assistance is forthcoming would be better than doing nothing? I think your question requires a little more detail with the scenario in any case.
    It may be a little different in other parts of the world, but up here we appear to have less idiots chatting on the monitored channels, so for me, having a VHF on the boat in case of emergency, I find it hard to get enthusiastic about obtaining a permit/license.
    Feel like we need permits to breathe regulated air nowadays.

    Regards

    Shane
    The test is over and I believe that the point has been made.

    The use of VHF radio is a totally different arena to the 27MHz and requires a degree of responsibility and conformance.........it can be a great ally in a difficult situation. [smiley=wink.gif]

    Chine

  5. #50

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Chine
    [quote author=Mr__Bean link=1168331505/30#31 date=1168398487][quote author=HarryO link=1168331505/30#30 date=1168398190]
    I wonder how many VHF users carry a radio log,

    and actually use it properly?

    Harry.



    Guilty as charged.

    - Darren


    [/quote]

    Actually...you are not guilty. You are not required to log VHF TX & RX.......if we did that there would not be a tree left standing.

    Even if you did, unless your boat is under survey and you have a station license with HF equipment fitted, which surveyor is going to check your log?

    Chine


    [/quote]



    Hi all...

    Out of the current handbook,

    Section 2, para 15, item 1, part.
    A copy of the handbook and material suitable for use as a radio log should be
    held aboard a vessel.

    Section 2, para 16, item 1.
    Operators should keep a record of all distress alerts,and messages transmitted
    or received.
    Particulars should include the station or stations with which the messages were
    exchanged, the frequencies used and the date and times of the transmission
    and reception.

    These apply to VHF, and MF/HF.

    A ''ships station'' is a boat with a marine radio fitted. (27mhz, VHF, MF/HF)

    There are also secrecy requirements that you are not allowed to relay anything you have
    heard to a 3rd party unless it was a distress call, or addressed to "all stations"

    I agree that its unlikely that the log will ever be inspected, but, if you're ever involved
    with a situation, your logs can be requested by a coroner, and be used in court.

    Its all fun!

    Harry.

  6. #51

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryO
    [quote author=Chine link=1168331505/30#38 date=1168413783][quote author=Mr__Bean link=1168331505/30#31 date=1168398487][quote author=HarryO link=1168331505/30#30 date=1168398190]
    I wonder how many VHF users carry a radio log,

    and actually use it properly?

    Harry.



    Guilty as charged.

    - Darren


    [/quote]

    Actually...you are not guilty. You are not required to log VHF TX & RX.......if we did that there would not be a tree left standing.

    Even if you did, unless your boat is under survey and you have a station license with HF equipment fitted, which surveyor is going to check your log?

    Chine


    [/quote]



    Hi all...

    Out of the current handbook,

    Section 2, para 15, item 1, part.
    A copy of the handbook and material suitable for use as a radio log should be
    held aboard a vessel.

    Section 2, para 16, item 1.
    Operators should keep a record of all distress alerts,and messages transmitted
    or received.
    Particulars should include the station or stations with which the messages were
    exchanged, the frequencies used and the date and times of the transmission
    and reception.

    These apply to VHF, and MF/HF.

    A ''ships station'' is a boat with a marine radio fitted. (27mhz, VHF, MF/HF)

    There are also secrecy requirements that you are not allowed to relay anything you have
    heard to a 3rd party unless it was a distress call, or addressed to "all stations"

    I agree that its unlikely that the log will ever be inspected, but, if you're ever involved
    with a situation, your logs can be requested by a coroner, and be used in court.

    Its all fun!

    Harry.[/quote]


    16. LOG KEEPING
    16.1 Operators should keep a record of all distress
    alerts and messages transmitted or received.
    Particulars should include the station or stations
    with which the messages were exchanged, the
    frequencies used and the date and times of
    transmission and reception. [ch9670]•


    "Should".........not "shall".......not "must"...... and in reality, in the commercial arena, it is just not done because it is not required to be done. The VHF traffic volumes are enormous. [smiley=wink.gif]

    Chine

  7. #52

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    lloyd from vicky ppoint vmr help me out with mine,

    i am quite surprized with the poll results.


    geoff

  8. #53

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    Yep I got my MROCP from Lloyd too, well worth it ...
    Light travels faster than sound, that's why some people seem Bright ...... untill they speak

  9. #54
    hussy
    Guest

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    Quote Originally Posted by FNQCairns
    No probably never will, almost did once, downloaded the manual/curriculum had a read, couldn't find anything important or worthy of a licence when all said and done, above what years of boating with 27meg didn't provide + being handy sometimes with fix-it stuff. It's a simple swap from marine 27 to marine VHF.

    Actually the same with the VHF in the car a licence is needed there also I think,never will get one of those either.

    Not trying to disparage any that have a licence I really couldn't care less if one has a radio licence or not in any recreational arena, commercial is a different matter though.

    I cannot help it, I think the licence is largely for licence's sake (an induction and statement of attendance possibly?)I also don't like many of this ilk of Goverment designed and fostered industrys either so hope never to fuel it with my money.

    cheers fnq
    i totally agree fnq bob h

  10. #55

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    What VHF in what car? Appears there might be a bit more confusion that first thought?

  11. #56

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry
    What VHF in what car? Appears there might be a bit more confusion that first thought?
    Good point.

  12. #57

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Shanoss
    What a joke. A license to use a radio!?!??!?! I've never heard of a bigger crock of shite!
    you must be a youngen then Shane...I can remember when you had to putchase a license to use your radio and tv in your house..and they did come around door knocking and asking to see the license.

    so you are completely complicit with the use of a vhf and all the necessary calls and procedures? I hope so..your life and someone elses may depend on it one day. I learnt a lot by doing the course and at least know I can make the correct call if in trouble and get the required assistance.

  13. #58

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    Quote Originally Posted by Chine
    [quote author=HarryO link=1168331505/45#49 date=1168506153][quote author=Chine link=1168331505/30#38 date=1168413783][quote author=Mr__Bean link=1168331505/30#31 date=1168398487][quote author=HarryO link=1168331505/30#30 date=1168398190]
    I wonder how many VHF users carry a radio log,

    and actually use it properly?

    Harry.



    Guilty as charged.

    - Darren


    [/quote]

    Actually...you are not guilty. You are not required to log VHF TX & RX.......if we did that there would not be a tree left standing.

    Even if you did, unless your boat is under survey and you have a station license with HF equipment fitted, which surveyor is going to check your log?

    Chine


    [/quote]



    Hi all...

    Out of the current handbook,

    Section 2, para 15, item 1, part.
    A copy of the handbook and material suitable for use as a radio log should be
    held aboard a vessel.

    Section 2, para 16, item 1.
    Operators should keep a record of all distress alerts,and messages transmitted
    or received.
    Particulars should include the station or stations with which the messages were
    exchanged, the frequencies used and the date and times of the transmission
    and reception.

    These apply to VHF, and MF/HF.

    A ''ships station'' is a boat with a marine radio fitted. (27mhz, VHF, MF/HF)

    There are also secrecy requirements that you are not allowed to relay anything you have
    heard to a 3rd party unless it was a distress call, or addressed to "all stations"

    I agree that its unlikely that the log will ever be inspected, but, if you're ever involved
    with a situation, your logs can be requested by a coroner, and be used in court.

    Its all fun!

    Harry.[/quote]


    16. LOG KEEPING
    16.1 Operators should keep a record of all distress
    alerts and messages transmitted or received.
    Particulars should include the station or stations
    with which the messages were exchanged, the
    frequencies used and the date and times of
    transmission and reception. [ch9670]•


    "Should".........not "shall".......not "must"...... and in reality, in the commercial arena, it is just not done because it is not required to be done. The VHF traffic volumes are enormous. [smiley=wink.gif]

    Chine[/quote]


    I know it reads "SHOULD".. and if used "PROPERLY", logs SHOULD be kept......

    All limited coastal stations maintain a detailed log of all tx's and rx's.

    All responsible commercial vessels maintain a detailed log the same.

    It IS a lot of paperwork.

    It SHOULD also save their arse SHOULD the ca ca hit the fan.

    Harry.

  14. #59

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    I know it reads "SHOULD".. and if used "PROPERLY", logs SHOULD be kept......

    All limited coastal stations maintain a detailed log of all tx's and rx's.

    All responsible commercial vessels maintain a detailed log the same.

    It IS a lot of paperwork.

    It SHOULD also save their ar$e SHOULD the ca ca hit the fan.

    Harry.


    All limited coastal stations maintain a detailed log of all tx's and rx's.

    Correct. Log on and log off..............

    All responsible commercial vessels maintain a detailed log the same.

    Incorrect.

    These are the facts Harry.

    Chine
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  15. #60

    Re: Have you got a license to use your VHF in the

    The emphasis SHOULD be on the word "RESPONSIBLE"

    "WHAT" are the facts, Chine?


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