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    Ausfish Addict Chimo's Avatar
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    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    Smelly

    Q1 Does motor have to be warm for the water to stream?
    A I dont see why. It doesnt on my 115s, comes out after the chambers fill

    Q2 How does extra PSI through poppets etc on the water sometimes needed to get it all going?
    A Dont know Whats a poppet anything to do with foreplay?

    Q3 What comes first - THermostat regualtion or water pump indicator?
    A Water pump indication is first followed some time later by stage one thermostat operation ie thermo may open if water gets hot enough. Smelly, you did heat the thermostats in a sucepan on the stove to see them open didn't you poppet?

    Chimo

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  2. #212

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    HI Chimo.

    Yes, new stats were tested in hot water prior to install.

    I guess, you are all thinking I have fkd up somewhere..prob have.. :-(

    Either water pump kit not installed properly and/or stat housing...

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    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    Smelly

    Exactly what is the thing thats concerning you ?

    Chimo
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  4. #214

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    CHimo - no water coming out of water pump indicator - only concern now.

    How do I tell if the water pump is working ok if I do not see water coming out of indicator?

  5. #215

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    Quote Originally Posted by Chimo
    Smelly

    Q1 Does motor have to be warm for the water to stream?
    A I dont see why. It doesnt on my 115s, comes out after the chambers fill

    Q2 How does extra PSI through poppets etc on the water sometimes needed to get it all going?
    A Dont know Whats a poppet anything to do with foreplay?

    Q3 What comes first - THermostat regualtion or water pump indicator?
    A Water pump indication is first followed some time later by stage one thermostat operation ie thermo may open if water gets hot enough. Smelly, you did heat the thermostats in a sucepan on the stove to see them open didn't you poppet?

    Chimo
    Chimo - can u clairfy your answer to Q3 - does the water pump indicator come on first or does stage one thermostat operation come first?

  6. #216

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    thanks guys there was no salt just gravel grade sand my motor was heating on one side so when it blocked the water vol; from my telltale doubled my motor is a 89 i have a cd for 91 on cheers ps im going to try putting it back on with that black goo

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    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    Smelly

    Morning

    Have you tried to clean the passage thru the telltale outlet with thin wire or wipper snipper platic as RAG suggested while the motor has the water running into it thru the ear muffs with the hose on flat out and after you have poked around in the outlet for a while turn the motor on while you continue to try and dislodge any gunk / crap that may be blocking the indicator. Water pressure with you poking may dislodge said crap.

    As I suggested in no 3 the indicator on my motors shows water after a minute or so when the water goes in thru the muffs and the motor galleries fill The thermostats cannot open until they heat up (as per the saucepan) and second stage cooling (when the thermostats go back against the springs happens when the water pressure builds up to a high enough pressure.

    Does that give you a better idea?

    Chimo

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  8. #218

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    HI Chimo.

    DUmb Q - is the telltale outlet the connection that feeds the water pump indicator?

    WHy woudl I not see water discharge now when before I did?

    THe gunk/crap factor has not changed - or has it?

  9. #219

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    Wayne - good find and well worth the effort - I bet many others have gunk/salt build up in their stats and not do anything about it - underestimate the benefits of sufficient cooling..

  10. #220

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    Smelly for lot's of years outboards came with no indicator because they are not a nessesary item, they are included today because it keeps the great unwashed happy and an outboard with an indicator will sell before one without -marketing.

    As I outlined above use your hands it is a step or two above the indicator in sophistication, if your hands say it is not getting hot then it is not getting hot and it is all working correctly, your indicator can never telll you that no matter how many times you look at it and your horn will only tell you it has overheated which when it does go on is too late anyway.



    The PSI inside the head when underway can double or more depending on pump design, with a very minor problem like a blocked indicator this can usually blow it out, if it doesn't no-matter your hands will tell you everything and more than that will anyway. The indicator is pre thermo I am sure so useless as a tool, look for extra water exiting from the upper exhaust ports as a sign of thermo then poppets (at speed) opening also lower on leg when on the plane. If you feel it getting hot it is and shut down.

    good luck however you go about it, hope all goes well.

    cheers fnq

    PS. try not to run it without the cowl in place at high speed.



  11. #221

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    Smelly are you running in a tank or just muffs from the hose ????

    That there new impellor will have to bed in a bit I would be inclined to submegre the leg in a tank or take it down the ramp, to fully submege the pump. That will help it prime up.
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  12. #222

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    Thanks guys.

    I am only using muffs at this stage. I guess the ramp is the next step..

    I am hoping GUTS is correct about new impellors bedding...

    Has anyone else experienced the very first few starts upon new impellor installation?

    DO they (new impellors) take a bit to turn water throught the indicator?



  13. #223

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    Don't know with mine there ain't much pressure on the muffs as below the cav plate I need to mask the plastic grate otherwise water falls out there first.

    Try masking up any areas that it drains from. But take the tape off when finished.

    Where does water come out in yours the through prop exhaust ? if so water must be getting up there.

    However mine will not spit water out the exhaust vent just below the cowl unless in the water or in a tank. But the water pressure stream will flow.

    Good luck Smelly.
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  14. #224

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    WHy is the cav plate significant in this?

    Water does come out beyond the plastic grate.

    I don't recall seeing water coming out from the two(2) prop exhaust holes in leg.

    Would the new impellor need more pressure to start off maybe?

    Smelly

  15. #225

    Re: Cooling System Warning Alarm

    If water comes out the cav plate that be the least line of resistance. Best to block it off with tape so your pump can pick up a decsent pressure.

    There is one other possibility, is there a tube that went from your water pump, in to your power head did that have a rubber gromet, where you happy with how that lined up when putting the leg back on.

    If that is not aligned no pressure will go to your motor.

    Other guy's would know better than me on this one.
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