jellyfish + cast net = ??????

[fisherman_charles]

wat do you do if you get a poisenes jelly fish in your cast net please tell because its stinger season

[redfoot]

always carry vinegar& dont look straight at it when u r removing it from the net,especially if the net has a few fish flopping around in it.but the first time you get stung is the worst,you seem to get used to them after a while but its still not nice-my wrists are permanatly scarred & sometimes they still break out into ulcers.in case you are wondering i fished commercially in the gulf for a few years

[fisherman_charles]

sounds like your wrist is screwed

[Gorilla_in_Manila]

Check with your nearest surf life saving club to see whether it is vinegar or metho that neutralises the stings the best and wether it completely neutralises them. I was taught that just some ladies stockings between your skin and the stingers is enough to stop them from stinging you. The clubbies use a full body stocking for rescues in stinger infected water.
Maybe some thin latex gloves would allow you to handle them without getting stung (check with the clubbies) and still let you have enough feel to throw and retrieve the cast net.

[redfoot]

VINEGAR VINEGAR VINEGAR -vinegar neutralizes the jellyfishes stinging cells while metho sets them off just ask ben cropp.re: the wrists-yeah they got pretty badly stung a few times,the gap between your gloves and jacket was a major chink in our armour(& try wearing full wet weather gear every day in monsoonal nth qld)another funny thing is that the out breaks of ulcers seem to occur on an annual basis ie summer when its hot &wet
but its not just the stingers(box jellys irukandis etc )that you have to watch - i was blinded for nearly 48 hours by blubber that a ray flicked into my eyes- i cant stress this enough-get into the habit of looking out of the corner of squinty eyes(behind glasses as well)AND ALWAYS HAVE 2 OR 3 LITERS OF VINEGAR ON HAND

[Gorilla_in_Manila]

VINEGAR VINEGAR VINEGAR -vinegar neutralizes the jellyfishes stinging cells. AND ALWAYS HAVE 2 OR 3 LITERS OF VINEGAR ON HAND

Hmmmm ...... guess vinegar is the go Charles.

[Big_Kev]

Any good First Aid book will tell you how to treat stings.

[NQCairns]

Good post Charles and great info redfish sorry tho hear about your flare-ups, they certainly are nasty buggers. Vinegar is now something else to add to my list of must takes on the boat [smiley=2thumbsup.gif].

I saw that episode where Ben (Bens my hero by the way)did the experiment , still makes me squirm just thinking about it .

Question, which hurts the most the Box Jelly or another ? also are the stingers always easy to spot in the net or do small pieces catch a person out.cheers nq

Edit: actually it was Malcolm Douglas who did the test on his arm with stingers, amazing stuff!!

[fisherman_charles]

thanks for the post's
ill always bring vinigar now, all so how do you remove the jellyfish without getting stung if you could tell it would be a big help

[agnes_jack]

NQ Cairns
An extract from Marine animal injuries to man By Dr Carl Edmonds

Excruciating pain dominates the clinical picture,while impairment of the conscious state may lead to coma and death.Thepain diminishes in 4-12 hrs. Amnesia occurs for most of the incedent following the sting. If death occurs, it is usually within the first 10 min, survival is likely after the first hour. Cardiovascular effects dominate the generalized manifestations. the patient may develop cardiac shock,appearing cold and clammy with a rapid pulse and a disturbance of Consciousness. Hypotension, tachycardia and a raised venous pressure may also occur. It is also possible that the cardiac state may oscillate within minutes from episodes of hypertension tachycardia, rapid respirations and normal venous pressure to hypertension,bradycardia,apnoea and elevated venous pressure. The oscilation may give a false impression of improvement just prior to death. Respitory distress, pulmonary congestion and oedema, and cyanosis, may be due to the cardiac effects or to a direct mid-brain depresion. Paralysis and abdominal pains mayoccur. Malaise and restlessness may persist, with physical convalescence requiring up to a week.

Sounds like a barrel of laughs. Extreme caution is the go!

This particular book covers most injuries likely to occur, and is a very handy reference to have in any boat or glove box. it covers symptoms and first aid very useful in an emergency.

Tony

[agnes_jack]

Charles
I would assume to safely remove them from the net would mean neutralizing them with vinegar, and carefully removing the peices by hand with a pair of gloves. Not sure if hanging the net up to dry for a few days would do the same job? Whatever you do do it carefully!

[fisherman_charles]

thanks for the advice mate ill take a lot of cautuion when casting and probly hang my net up for a couple of days if i get one in ma net hopefully not

[nonibbles]

The vinegar shuts down their stinging mechanism (fires tiny poisonous stings) to prevent further stinging and washes off the tentacles at the same time.
It does not reverse the envenomation you would still require medical treatment if stung.
If you must touch them (and this is not by any means a recommendation to do so!):- handle only by the bell and wear gloves (plastic bag over hand o.k) and long sleeves to prevent wind blown tentacles stinging you.
If you do get stung in this process drop the bloody thing (and don't touch it again) and resort to first aid.

The big question I'd like answered is...
O.k you're down on the beach and you've removed the stinger from your net, where do you put the jellyfish now so nobody else gets stung (remember individual tentacles can still pack a punch)?

[Gorilla_in_Manila]

The vinegar shuts down their stinging mechanism (fires tiny poisonous stings) to prevent further stinging

The big question I'd like answered is...
O.k you're down on the beach and you've removed the stinger from your net, where do you put the jellyfish now so nobody else gets stung (remember individual tentacles can still pack a punch)?

Answered your own question, didn't you? Presumably put them anywhere you want after soaking them in vinegar? ???

[agnes_jack]

Probably the best way to dispose of one would be to dig a deep hole in the sand and bury the mongrel. At least this may stop kids etc from picking them up!

Tony ???