hi new to forum

[ratherbfishing]

hi guys my names paul and i am from the u.k but please dont hold that against me me and my family (wife and two girls) are looking to relocate to australia probaly to the east coast brisbane area or slightly further north i like to ask you guys what the fishing is like off the beaches in this area as i cant live without it! i am a reasonably good caster and can put a plain 6oz weight over 200 yds what sort of fish can i expect to catch using long distance techniques? do you guys use the same methods out there? or is it all lure fishing and spinning? do you guys have tournament casting over there? please excuse my ignorance as i really have no idea what to expect of the species of fish or the methods you guys use to catch them so any advice would be great thanks alot paul

[jeffo]

welcome to the site paul... you have come to the right place for info on brissy and "slightly further north" . around here (sunshine coast) spinning off the rocks is not a very common way of fishing for some reason, but the few who do it come up trumps! the few guys i work with are right into it and regularly get big tailor and trevally, as well as the odd kingie and mackeral.
on another note... when you arrive in australia jump on here and let every one know, i am sure there are plenty of blokes who would be willing to take you out and show you around the place (offshore, bay and river).
cheers.
jeff

[straddie]

Heya Paul sounds like the surf might be the place for you over here. Stradbroke and Moreton Islands if you decide to live in Brisbane, Sunshine coast beaches to the north, Gold Coast to the south. If you go a lot further north then Fraser Island might be where you will be fishing. Nice warm water as well, even in winter

Most types and styles of fishing are catered for, everything from hanging a handline off a jetty, beach fishing, LBG, deep sea, or trolling.

Swallotail dart(avg 1lb upto 2lb +) and tailor (avg 1lb upto 10lb +) will be your main species. Jewfish/Mulloway if your looking for something bigger (upto 50lb +).

What strength line and length rod are you throwing 6oz 200yards with if ya don't mind me asking?

[ratherbfishing]

hi jeffo thanks for the reply mate sounds great!! do any of you guys use the long distance 5-6oz weight methods for surf fishing? can you catch sharks from the beaches over there or any other hard fighting species?thanks again for the quick reply regards paul

[jeffo]

yeah sharks are always an option... not to mention some big jewies. baits are best for those 2 though!

[ratherbfishing]

hi straddie cheers mate thanks for the info the line we use over here is between 15-18lb b.s off our beaches and we use a leader on the reel of 60-80lb b.s to take the shock of the heavy casting weights the style of cast is known as the pendulum cast which as it says sees the lead swung into position prior to being picked up and brought round in a large arc which generates the long distances we guys need at times to catch what small amount of fish we have left in our u.k waters any other questions i can help with please ask glad to help if i can do you use the pendulum style of casting or any other long distance methods like off the ground or back casting? oh by the way the rods we use are 13-14ft and most of us have the reels mounted at the bottom of the butt and use penn mag 525 daiwa 7ht or a.b.u 6500 series reels some of us do use fix spools but it is mostly multipliers for this type of fishing we use rods by companys such as zziplex ,conoflex, century ,daiwa and some others these rods will cast upto 7 oz plus bait and on the tournament field some guys are casting plain leads over 300yds! hope i have been of some help thanks for all your replys regards paul

[straddie]

Just did a google and found this http://www.fishermansheadquarters.co...dulumcast.html
That's a pretty wild casting method Paul, something like the things I used to try when I was a lot younger but decided I couldn't afford all the lead I losing after the big ))CRACK(((
I can see why the heavy leader is required, something I never thought of back then.

The setup you mention would be suitable using cut and big whole baits for big tailor, jew and sharks although depending on the size be prepared for some prolonged fights. If you were chasing smaller tailor (pilchard baits) and dart (pippis, a cockle type bait) the cast would probably disintergrate the baits and the rod may be a little too stiff.

13-14ft is pretty common here as well. Long casting can come in handy at times, I adjust my casting to the bait and weight I am using. Don't think I would come anywhere near 200yds though.

I think you are going to have a lot fun over here

[ratherbfishing]

hi guys the casting style is surprisingly kind to baits but even so the really soft baits like peeler crab have to be bound to the hook with bait elastic to keep it in place but we blast worms up to 160-200yds with no real problems with loss of bait presentation which is quite surprising when you consider the speed the lead must leave the rod to get that distance! but it does not leave the rod with a savage flick as you would expect the rod kind of catapults the lead away under its own recovery from what you guys have said i wish i was moving tomorrow just got to sell our property and sort out the immigration and were there!! cant wait cheers paul

[ratherbfishing]

cheers mark that would make a change to have to cast shorter!! seems like you guys are blessed with a fishing heaven out there 8)we have the odds stacked against us over here as our hopeless goverment has no spine in defending our fishing rights against our neighbours ie spain and france they dont recognise our postion as sport fisherman or have any respect for our own fishing fleet its really grim over here mate and its getting worse not just the fishing either lots of english people are looking to get out if they can because they can see what way its going for us and are so unhappy with the way our country treats its own people any way thats for another forum i can look foreward to catching some fish closer in then sounds great lighter tackle = more sport so that will be fantastic cheers mate thanks for your reply regards paul

[Daintreeboy]

That's a long way out. Up this way the further out the worse off you'd be, unless you're on a rocky headland somewhere. The beaches here hold fish in close mostly.
Cheers, Mark.

[agnes_jack]

Gday paul
Doesnt sound too flash in the fishing dept. over there mate, sounds like the sooner ya get over here the happier you will be.
Up this way there are only a few situations where a long cast would be of advantage as most beach species are feeding under your feet on a rising tide! Sometimes off the rocks you may do well on a long cast when the mackeral and tuna are hanging out a bit wider. Weve got all options covered out here and any type of fishing you can think of is available.
Good luck with the move!

Regards, Tony

[GES]

G'Day Paul
Geez, another pommie !!! We've spent the last 200 years trying to breed you buggers out of our blood lines .
Ah well, you sound like a good bloke, so we'll let you in.
Mate, we (in Queensland anyway) use a lot of Alvey reels
(A big centre pin reel that turns to afford a cast. But I'm not explaining them in detail here, you'll see plenty when you get here) They are the best for beach fishing IMHO. You can cast an unweighted pillchard, on a ganged hook set-up, out into the surf for tailor very easily. You only need a comparatively small lead for light baits in the worst situation, compared to the bloody bricks you are talking about anyway. I don't know anyone who uses 6oz sinkers here, except for deep sea fishing when there's a current maybe.
What are you trying to do ... Knock 'em out? ???
Beach fishing here consists mostly of walking (or driving) along and finding the right beach formation (holes, gutters etc) and then fishing in and around them. The best way to learn quickly when you get here, is to join a fishing club.
The experts there will school you up pretty quickly. It's fairly easy to get a feed off the beach here once you get to know the ropes.
Good luck with the move mate. It's a big job and I don't envy you that. Hope the missus and kids like this place too.
I'm retired now (plenty of time) and wouldn't mind showing you a few clues when you get here, if you end up in my neck of the woods.

GES

[Gorilla_in_Manila]

Hey Paul,

Welcome. Sounds like you are on a good plan there mate.

Read a few articles on your distance casting techniques and comps over there. Interesting stuff. Think I read somewhere the world record cast was well over 300yards which is pretty mind boggling. Do you use all the clips, break aways and aerodynamic gadgets when you cast? Would be interesting if you could post some pics of your set up. Also the knot you use for the transition between your 80lb shock leader and the 18lb mainline would be interesting as well.

As the guys were saying, most of your fish in aus will come from putting the cast in the right place, rather than trying to hit New Zealand. Often seen Hero Hubby walk down and give it the big hurl-with-a-hernia, then wife or kids come down beside and barely flop it out 10m and they are the ones that get the fish.

Having the skill of long casts will come in handy in certain situations though. I know a few rock fishing spots where there is a reef about 20 yards further out than I can cast. And occassionally I've been getting fish from the back of a sand bank off the beach and the incoming tide has forced me back out of casting range resulting in no more fish.

Cheers
Jeff

[DaneCross]

Holy With a casting style like that, you'll be catching fish from New Zealand waters It'll be handy on those days when the tailor are hanging wide in the often unreachable gutters.

[Gorilla_in_Manila]

Looks like the UK record is a bit less than 300 yards.
Found this on the web.
Paul, your second name isn't Kerry, is it?
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The official body for keeping casting records in the U.K. is the U.K. Surfcasting Federation. They organise National, European and World championships.

Multiplier Records

125g # # # 228.07m # # # # # # # # # # # # # Brian Holden
150g # # # 257.32m # #281yd 1ft #3inches # # Neil Mackellow
175g # # # 246.72m # # # # # # # # # # # # # Neil Kelland
4oz # # # #236.21m # #258yd 1ft #0inches # # Paul Kerry
6oz # # # #245.36m # #268yd 1ft #0inches # # Neil Mackellow


Fixed Spool Records

150g # # # # # # # # #263yd 0ft 10inches # # Gary Setchell # # 1989
To qualify a potential cast must be made on a UKSF laid out court, at an Open UKSF competition with at least two UKSF committee members present as witnesses. All competitors must use a mainline of at least 0.35mm diameter with a 0.80mm shock leader. The line must be measured at least every 10m immediately after the cast and either side of any knot.

There have been several unofficial casts over 300 yards!!!

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And here's a link to a dude thats hoiked it 306 yards.
http://www.summerlands-tackle.co.uk/...20Casting.html