What do you look for in a tailor gutter?

[CHRIS_aka_GWH]

both neil - black nylon coated & bronzed stainless.

nylon coated is much thicker but pliable so use it on the livie snooded type rigs with a glow bead betwwen the two hooks - no lead about 1m trace to a swivel.

i put the single strand bronzed staright to the hook eye - i use a 1cm piece of glow tube on the piece of wire that passes thru the eye to lessen the liklihood of the very thin wire slipping between the join in the hook - tace from 30cm - 60cm depending on conditions. Sinker to suit conditions but for big fish a heavier lead

i use Gamakatsu 6/0 & 8/0 saltwater fly hooks - nice open gape & really seem to grab. I swapped from octopus, live bait & french pattern styles.

[wormer]

Neil, im using the multistrand wire because i find the single strand kinks to easily for me. i currently use the nylon coated multistrand looped and crimped with a couple of luminous green beads 1x 4/0 tru turn ganged with swivel to leader and to another 3/0 tru turn hook on the bottom. im using the shogun brand swivels rated to 60 pound, ive found them unbustable yet and the strongest ive ever used. trace is made to suit conditions but approx 5-600 mm long. the smaller 3/0 is there to pick up the big bream and dart that may show up with the tailor. Im only using two smaller hooks as im looking for casting distance. im using small strip baits so there is less wind resistance when in flight. Lead is a number 8 or 10 ball ( i like to anchor my bait in position on a bank )

Drew.

[NeilD]

I'm going to have to look at my riggs a bit more. I am usually using 60lb mono leader and have shied away from multistrand because it seems too bulky. I have been playing around a bit with some knottable graphite/stainless stuff which is very soft and pliable(a bit like thick braid) but I don't feel comfortable with the way the knots pull up. I was even thinking of using a length of 15kg fireline as a short trace.
By the way in a deep gutter I usually fish the deeper water inside the outer bank rather than on the bank itself. I seem to catch a lot more sharks etc than Tailor so perhaps the bank itself may be a better option.

Cheers Neil

[sharkbait]

Gday fellas,

Heres a good example of "the perfect" tailor gutter. Deep, deep drain off a point (to the right) opening into a Very deep hole with unbroken access all the way past the break. The tailor were sitting right on the ambush point at the opening - not huge numbers of fish, but not one under 1 1/2 kg caught.

This gutter produced tailor to 3kg, big dart and bream and a couple of big jew (not for me though).

I normally start with 2 ganged 5/0s and 30lb trace, and go to 38lb single strand/single 5/0 if necessary.


Cheers, Kris.

[wormer]

Good pic chris, i can see why you would have got big bream here, that bank behind the drain is quite close in by judging the photo. I would have been placing my bait on the corner of the bank just before the opening or trying to throw over it. I have fished with single strand before with succes using a single hook rig but way prefer the clear coated multi strand. have a look around there are some brands that are quite good and much more managble them single strand. ive found the combination of the two ( plastic and wire ) offers a bit better protecion then just mono or wire on its own. i take it your using strip or slabs bait chris hence the two hooks?

[CHRIS_aka_GWH]

TAILORPORN

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm oh yeah baby mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
thanks's Kris - where is that from .. Tweed Coast ??- sand has that brown look

[fishy_phil]

TAILOR!!!
thats what i look for in a tailor hole
cheers
phil

[sharkbait]

Wormer - Yep using slabs of mullet or tuna mainly. That plastic coated wire sounds good - will have to give it a go.

Chris - that photo was taken at your stomping ground - NSI. I have some better photos, will try and post them soon.

cheers, Kris.

[CHRIS_aka_GWH]

just wait I'll down a few bundys ...

glug, glug, glug buuuuuuuuuuuuuurp

OH YEAH - Now I recognise it !!!

[sharkbait]

see if this works

[Fishinmishin]

wormer. my 2 bob is 1st look for wfere the fish are not where they should be. as said use your pol sunnies or better yet use the best eyes in the sky(birds). if no action seen pick a good clean deep gutter with decent whitewater on its sides and a deep runoff. if trouble spotting pick a high vantage point to get a better view. either fish baits until action arrives if staying in one area or i like to move hitting each gutter with metals(halco twisty 40g my fav) until find action. fish a rising tide and collect pippies or use other burley and spread along beach as so rising tide gradually washes out a burley trail(keep a slingshot handy for bird theifs). a humble pillie will do fine on gangs of snelled but med size eggbeater with 30ld braid to 60lb mono tied straight to lure seems to work well for me. love the braid as doesnt catch sweep too much, good casting distance ane solid hookups as no stretch. if fishing n. straddie ensure get in before netters start as i was there last week and they bloody raped the whole beach. insane the size of the greenbacks they took. i got some photos and when developed i will post them. last thing and most important. start fishing before sunrise as the early man gets the tailor. pic of 1hr worth of catch(damn dart hit my lure more aggressivly than tailor)

[Fishinmishin]

sm tailor

[CHRIS_aka_GWH]

ahhhh a bit of claret, luv it.


news that a 4.1kg greenback was caught on deadmans beach saturday. I'd hazard a bet it was caught from the water where we were netting mullet during the straddie classic.

So add bait in the gutter to that list - there were poddy mullet & longtoms in that gutter all week. Also saturday had that storm - theres the rough water.

chris