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    Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Hi Team!

    Anyone offer their thoughts on Pros and COns of hand held GPS within the boat on the bay?

    Which is better - mounted or hand held?



  2. #2

    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Handheld can be mounted...

    Only super duper diff is the screen size.. mapping is possible on both

    Tim

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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Thanks Tim.

    I have never used a GPS before but keen to learn..and to select which is best for PPB.

    What do I need to know to select an accurate and relaible GPS?

    Smelly

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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    This site was the best i'd come across when choos'en my GPS (Garmin MAP60C).

    http://gpsinformation.net/

    These were my reasons.

    1. Portable so i could use in my boat and car
    2. Colour (my miss'es wanted colour (happy wife=happy life)
    3. Maps (I wanted to see and use maps on the PC and handheld)
    4. price ($679 from BIAS Boating only because they matched Whitworths price)
    5. Waterproof (but the 60C does not float, the 76 series does)
    6. Compatability (NMEA) with my fish finder, Furuno 4100.
    7. Memory within the unit for maps (I have filled my 56Mb allready)

    Hope this helps

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    finga64
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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Cons for the hand held for me
    (1) can't see the screen bouncing around the ocean
    (2) can't find the right buttons bouncing around the ocean
    so I got a bigger screen and bigger buttons but they could only come with a fixed unit otherwise I would still have a handheld

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    redspeckle
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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Go the hand held GPS I have the GPS 72 3 yrs old take it any where I have it mounted in the boat when fishing take it out when not in use
    can put in new way points before go fish out out there and take it camping and so on
    The next GPS I be getting be a hand held but can be loaded up with maps
    Mitch

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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Thanks Guys.

    Finga - why can't you mount your unit on the boat to stop bouncing?

    Impulse - Is yours top of range and can it be mounted onto boat as well - where is BIAS boating and what makes this unit differnt to the other hand held units?

    Smelly


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    finga64
    Guest

    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    to stop my handheld screen from bouncing you'll have to stop my boat from bouncing

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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Quote Originally Posted by Smelly
    Thanks Guys.

    Impulse - Is yours top of range and can it be mounted onto boat as well - where is BIAS boating and what makes this unit differnt to the other hand held units?

    Smelly
    Bias http://www.biasboating.com.au/
    Showrooms http://www.biasboating.com.au/showrooms.html
    Bias GPS http://www.biasboating.com.au/gps_hand.html

    Garmin USA http://www.garmin.com/marine/compare.jsp
    Garmin Comparison Chart http://www.garmin.com/marine/compare.jsp

    Garmin Australia http://www.gme.net.au
    Garmin Aust 60C Spec http://www.gme.net.au/garmin/gpsmap60cs.php

    Garmin 60C is up there but i doubt its top of the range its more of a "All Purpose" GPS, there is a new model released in the US that also has a SD card for additional memery/maps. http://www.garmin.com/products/gpsmap60cx/

    I think the 76 series are more the top of the line for marine handheld GPS (correct me if im wrong) and they float but i couldn't justify the additional cost.

    You can also check here for better pricing http://www.whitworths.com.au/main_li...armin+Handheld

    And yes you can mount the 60C and other Garmin with this mount (which i have but haven't installed yet) http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp...0%2D10455%2D00

    There is a Car mount that use the same bracket on the GPS so you can remove and replace into the car/boat without the need to stuff around with brackets etc.

    As for the differences, that a hard one, it took me for ever to pick one and i'm sure people will have their views on whats best.

    For me it was a balance of price/built in memory/Map Feature/PC interface.

    PS for some reason the Garmin Australia site is down........and make sure if you buy a Garmin GPS to update the GPS firmware and PC software.



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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Thanks muchly!

    Who uses non-hand held GPS units (permanant mounted) - please advise on pros and cons of these units...


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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Impulse and Redspeckle,

    Below is an extract from http://www.biasboating.com.au/gps_hand.html

    Garmin Mapping GPSMAP 60C Cat. 6604X BIAS $699.00
    Use with MapSource City Navigator (Cat. 6603X - optional extra)
    Select MapSource MetroGuide (Cat. 6602X - optional extra)
    Marine Chart Plotting with Garmin BlueChart CD (Cat. 6608X - optional extra).
    56MB internal memory for map storage. #
    Size 61 x 155 x 33mm (W x H x D).

    Cat. 6603X MapSource City Navigator CD* BIAS Price $349.00
    Cat. 6602X MapSource MetroGuide CD* BIAS Price $179.00
    Cat. 6608X BlueChart CD* BIAS Price $295.00


    Does this list imply that if I wish to use the GPSMAP 60C for Car and boat, I have to purchase these additional add-ons (Cat. 6603X, Cat. 6602X and Cat. 6608X) on top of the unit itself (Cat. 6604X)?

    Also, how well do you handle the relatively smaller screen size (Size 61 x 155 x 33mm) and smaller buttons (compared to a dedicated mounted one) when on water bouncing around?

    And, the internal memory (56MB) - how do you add in more memory if needed?

    Smelly

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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Quote Originally Posted by Smelly
    Impulse and Redspeckle,

    Below is an extract from http://www.biasboating.com.au/gps_hand.html

    Garmin Mapping GPSMAP 60C Cat. 6604X BIAS $699.00
    Use with MapSource City Navigator (Cat. 6603X - optional extra)
    Select MapSource MetroGuide (Cat. 6602X - optional extra)
    Marine Chart Plotting with Garmin BlueChart CD (Cat. 6608X - optional extra).
    56MB internal memory for map storage.
    Size 61 x 155 x 33mm (W x H x D).

    Cat. 6603X MapSource City Navigator CD* BIAS Price $349.00
    Cat. 6602X MapSource MetroGuide CD* BIAS Price $179.00
    Cat. 6608X BlueChart CD* BIAS Price $295.00


    Does this list imply that if I wish to use the GPSMAP 60C for Car and boat, I have to purchase these additional add-ons (Cat. 6603X, Cat. 6602X and Cat. 6608X) on top of the unit itself (Cat. 6604X)?

    Also, how well do you handle the relatively smaller screen size (Size 61 x 155 x 33mm) and smaller buttons (compared to a dedicated mounted one) when on water bouncing around?

    And, the internal memory (56MB) - how do you add in more memory if needed?

    Smelly

    Well yes depending on your requirements you may want them all,

    City Navigator 6 (I bought) has detailed maps of Australia (with most cities) and will give you navigational guidance i.e. Beep with detailed info "Turn right into ??? in 500m" etc

    Metro Guide is like your UDB street directory and details cities as well if not more of the smaller places (so the write-up states) in OZ but will not give you automated guidance.

    BlueChart is for "off shore" marine navigation and does not detail inland waterways that well, so if like me, you spend most of your time inland then its a waste of money (when i get a few more hours under the belt i venture into the unknown.

    As for the small screen, I used it today connected to my Furuno LS4100 (NMEA) and it went well. I marked a few points for further investigation with a quick 2 key button press (on the fly) and i had no problems at all. My thoughts are that if you need to play with menus you’re probably coming up to a fishing spot and would be slowing down, I can't see you needing to operate the units in detail while under going flat out.

    Memory, you can’t unless you buy the newer Map60Cx which has an additional SD card slot. I found that you can almost fit all of NSW (city navigator 6) into the unit. If you need to travel around all of OZ you would need a PC to plot and upload your trip.

    PS. I forgot to mention that the base unit comes with broad mappping of OZ but only major hwy etc and also some waterway markers but is next to useless. You can still use the GPS for simple point identification for fishing spots etc.

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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Thanks BUd.

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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Impulse

    For the Hand held unit -

    • Why do want to use maps on the PC?
      And, what sort of compatability (NMEA) with your fish finder are you referring to?

    Smelly

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    Re: Pros and COns of hand held GPS

    Quote Originally Posted by Smelly
    Impulse

    For the Hand held unit -

    • Why do want to use maps on the PC?
      And, what sort of compatability (NMEA) with your fish finder are you referring to?

    Smelly

    Maps on the pc are great you can upload your tracks and waypoints (fishing spots and other things you have marked with your GPS) and review where you have been or where you want to go. You can plan your trip in advance and download back onto your GPS.

    The other thing is you can upload from your PC all your routes, waypoints, tracks straight into Google Earth so you get a real view.

    NMEA, I'm still learning my around with this, I installed the mount and cable on friday and have only used it once on the water. You can then mark your fishing spots via the fishfinder view the speed coordinants ect. Below is the interfaces for the 4100

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