Importing Electronics

[Mindi]

Oh and on another note..

If customs do that one in 50 search on the item and deem it NOT to be a gift..

you lose... you will pay the GST and the import tax and maybe even a nice little FINE...

or maybe there is something wrong with paying tax and supporting our system..

Aussie Aussie Aussie.. OI OI OI.....

This is wrong..the whole "gift" thing is wrong. Look up the Customs Regs. You can mail order anything from overseas which costs less than $1000 including postage. There is no paperwork. A friend ordered a Furuno 620CV from Fishon Marine for about $860 aud including transducer and it arrived at his door in 5 days to rural SA.
This is called globalisation....why should he pay $1350 to J N Taylor or Furuno Australia or some small retailer who is only making $50 on it anyway.

I have no connection to Fishonmarine (who advertise on this forum) but if you go to their site there is a page on Australian orders specifically including links to the customs site, postage explanations, and packages including Australian Maps...........like an Eagle 642C with Navionics X32 delivered for about $870 aud.
Its a competitive world.

[John Buoy]

Mindi i think Fisherdans post was in relation to the original 1st post made
wher the item in question is valued at $5000! Which if declared will incur duty and taxes.
Some retailers will place a lesser than $1000 on the item invoice to get thru customs
but remember if insurance is claimed due to a loss it will only cover the
postal invoice total.

Regards Frank

[John Martin]

This was discussed / debated / argued in great detail here:
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...ghlight=fcv620

[John Martin]

I just bought the Furuno FCV620 off this guy http://onlinefishfinders.com/about_us_.html
He's very helpful and told me he sends everything marked as a gift...there is a sales tax on top of his price though which added $34 to my purchase but worth it if it sails through customs.
cheers
Pete

If one is prepared to be dishonest in their dealing and scheme of ways to cheat the system then there's lots of ways to save a buck! It's just sad when that person brags about it on a public forum!

You can save taxi fare by driving your car when you're well over the booze limit!

or you can encourage a young bloke who works at a dealer to steal the gear and then you pay him cash does this make it right or something to brag about?

By undervaluing (fraudulently altering the customs value) and then comparing the shonky deal with the price of a legitimate local dealer who has to charge the 10% GST is no basis for an argument or discussion on "being ripped off" but rather just showing your character and nievity

[Nautek]

OK guys, I've read all the posts regarding importing etc etc. For me its quite simple and you guys, if you have a real good hard think about it may agree, on the other hand you may not.....but here's my 5 cents worth anyway.

We spend in excess of $50 to $100K, sometimes more, sometimes less, on a vessel to enjoy our hobby....fishing. We purchased this vessel to spend time on the water doing what we love.

Some will then buy a plotter from U.S to save.....what a thousand dollars??
If...and I say if...the unit plays up you send it back to the U.S (as stated that you have to by the suppliers in the U.S), then the vessel you spent $50 to $100K on, will sit in the shed.....not on the water. All because we wanted to save approx 1% of the purchase price of the boat. Are you serious??

If you cant afford the sounder, that will keep you fishing, then buy a cheaper boat. Most of us cant find enough time as it is to fish......why waste the time we do find.

[marco]

This was discussed / debated / argued in great detail here:
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...ghlight=fcv620

and won by me


sorry john , couldnt resist

[marco]

OK guys, I've read all the posts regarding importing etc etc. For me its quite simple and you guys, if you have a real good hard think about it may agree, on the other hand you may not.....but here's my 5 cents worth anyway.

We spend in excess of $50 to $100K, sometimes more, sometimes less, on a vessel to enjoy our hobby....fishing. We purchased this vessel to spend time on the water doing what we love.

Some will then buy a plotter from U.S to save.....what a thousand dollars??
If...and I say if...the unit plays up you send it back to the U.S (as stated that you have to by the suppliers in the U.S), then the vessel you spent $50 to $100K on, will sit in the shed.....not on the water. All because we wanted to save approx 1% of the purchase price of the boat. Are you serious??

If you cant afford the sounder, that will keep you fishing, then buy a cheaper boat. Most of us cant find enough time as it is to fish......why waste the time we do find.

two week turn around including shipping time to fix a furuno , small price to pay for what was a 900 dollar saving at the time .

furuno has come down to a difference of 100 dollars for the same model now so that does not make it worth while buying from the states .

at the end of the day aussie importers were taking us all for a ride , but because of the amount of sales lost to the usa market the importers are reducing thier prices to what is a fair margine .

[marco]

OK guys, I've read all the posts regarding importing etc etc. For me its quite simple and you guys, if you have a real good hard think about it may agree, on the other hand you may not.....but here's my 5 cents worth anyway.

We spend in excess of $50 to $100K, sometimes more, sometimes less, on a vessel to enjoy our hobby....fishing. We purchased this vessel to spend time on the water doing what we love.

Some will then buy a plotter from U.S to save.....what a thousand dollars??
If...and I say if...the unit plays up you send it back to the U.S (as stated that you have to by the suppliers in the U.S), then the vessel you spent $50 to $100K on, will sit in the shed.....not on the water. All because we wanted to save approx 1% of the purchase price of the boat. Are you serious??

If you cant afford the sounder, that will keep you fishing, then buy a cheaper boat. Most of us cant find enough time as it is to fish......why waste the time we do find.

actually read your post again and i cannot help but think you are a industry related person , is this correct ? and if so you should announce your position when making comment

[bluefin59]

Have you ever tried to get lowrance or navman to fix your problem ? It normally takes 2 weeks minimum to have the problem fixed and yes i speak from experience from both these people when they were seperate companies ,so to get stuff fixed in the states is no big deal as there turn around is usually quicker . This is from personal experience ...matt

[Steve B]

Have you ever tried to get lowrance or navman to fix your problem ? It normally takes 2 weeks minimum to have the problem fixed and yes i speak from experience from both these people when they were seperate companies ,so to get stuff fixed in the states is no big deal as there turn around is usually quicker . This is from personal experience ...matt

Have to agree with you matt, I had to send my eagle back to the states, 2 weeks turnaround, they paid postage back, cost me about $30......not bad in my eyes. Saved about $600 on the orginal purchase. I also had a locally bought sounder a few years back, had all sorts of trouble getting warranty for a genuine claims and the process went on for over a month.!


Nautek, Those 50 to 100k boats you refered to, alot of blokes now are importing them too for a fraction of the price....it doesnt stop at electronics and tackle anymore. but I certainly do see your point.

cheers steve

[cyclone8888]

Hi Fellas,

Just for everyones info, Lowrance and Bias are running a special to counter overseas grey imports at the moment.

I just bought a Globalmap 5300 for $699 and a LMS 527 DF IGPS for $899, now I only really looked on Ebay and yes it was cheaper, but only about $40 cheaper once postage was taken into account. Maybe there are other online retailers that I haven't seen that are cheaper again but I am pretty happy with what I paid.

I was pretty worried about buying stuff from the States and really didn't give it a huge amount of thought but by the sounds of things very few people have horror stories??

[Nautek]

Marco, Sorry mate. I own and operate Nautek Marine Services in Melbourne. We have 4 techs doing installs, upgrades and rectifications on everything from trailer boats to 200ft luxury cruises (floating hotels).
We see frustrated customers all the time......boat in shed.....sounder in for warranty in the U.S.

I cant really comment on the other brands warranty except Furuno and Raymarine, they are the only 2 we really deal with as they carry onboard warranty. If its installed or commisioned by an authorised tech, they will foot the bill and send a tech to you for warranty.......no need to remove it and send it back.

Give us a call for prices......maybe cheaper than you think. Currently got Furuno FCV620's for $1000's after cash back from Furuno and Raymarine A65's for $1500 with GPS antenna, DSM and 600W transom mount transducer.

Nautek Marine
03 9645 4420

[flybloke]

Does that Furuno price include the 600w trany?
What extra cost to send to SEQ?

[John Martin]

Nautek, that would be including 10% GST so it's a VERY good price!!

[Nautek]

600W transom mount tranny is $110 incl GST or $190 if you want water speed as well.