Latest news from Sunfish Qld is that there is no discussion paper out at present and they do not believe this will happen until after the next election.
Jeremy
Latest news from Sunfish Qld is that there is no discussion paper out at present and they do not believe this will happen until after the next election.
Jeremy
"The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
(Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)
Apathy is the enemy
Not criticising you Jeremy but do Sunfish really know whats going on behind the closed doors of the powerbrokers. I doubt itOriginally Posted by Jeremy
Derek
no worries Derek, but unless someone says otherwise, I will take their advice that there is no discussion paper out at present.
Jeremy
"The underlying spirit of angling is that the skill of the angler is pitted against the instinct and strength of the fish and the latter is entitled to an even chance for it's life."
(Quotation from the rules of the Tuna Club Avalon, Santa Catalina, U.S.A.)
Apathy is the enemy
Jeremy
Have a look at this page that has the AMCS questionnairre on it.
http://www.amcs.org.au/campaigns/mar...tionnaire.html
Every greenie/conservationist/weirdo group in the country and no doubt the world (check the country drop down box) has had acces to fill this in and while they haven't posted the results yet as they originally intended to in December 2005 you can bet that they have been lobbying politicians about it for quite some time. Most likely a few years.
Are any of the rec-fishing groups such as Sunfish (you mentioned them) or The Fishing Party for that matter doing the same thing on such a scale. I doubt it. No, they will wait for the Govt to tell them they have a prepared discussion paper and then we submit responses to that.
Sunfish and The Fishing Party should be getting off their collective butts and be getting active now, not waiting for a discussion paper that already has in it what the Government, after discussion and lobbying by conservationists, want us to know.
It was posted in another thread http://www.ausfish.com.au/cgi-ausfis...num=1135753052 that rec-fishers are 10 years behind the greens in regards things. Well this is one of the reasons why, because they are very proactive and we aren't.
Jeremy, I am not attacking you personally but I have no faith in Sunfish. In fact your comments on Sunfish reek of the complacency that has been forthcoming from them for quite some time that has resulted in rec-fishers being on the back foot in this country for a number of years.
Cheers
Derek
Hi all
the irony of all this is in the governments (LETS LOOK AT BEING MORE ENVIRONMENTAL) the Beattie Government is looking at destroying the Gold Coast with its Shipping Terminal but i have not seen one person talking about this topic if this goes ahead we as fisher-person's will agian be held to boundaries within the coast but the other irony of this is that the Southern end of South Stradbroke island and Wave Break Island is already a National Park so please inform the public as to how, which and why the Government is going to build a Shipping terminal there does this now mean that the South Stradbroke island land is going to the highest bidder in the land developers or are they just Scr!wing us agian taking away from all the stuff-up this Government has had I think most fisher-person would like to know sorry guy's but I think that with all the conservationist and greenie's you would think they they would have had something to say on this matter destroying more Breeding grounds just for a few more dollars
Cheers
Steve
Derek is just so right it is scarey!! By the time a "discussion paper" is released, the "deals" will all be done, preference arrangement for the next election included.
As to getting of our collective butts is concerned he is also right, the key word being "collective"....the courier mail this morning carried a story about inskip point campground being "downsized"....same horse, different jockey.
I have already been on the phone this morning re this....brothers in arms.
The burning issue TFPQ has is resources, time and willing personel......even a group like Sunfish has $200,000 a year government funding.............we hold concerns that this is however "hush money" and I have personally shared this view will Bill Turner and others within Sunfish....which has not gone down well.
There are just so many fires to fight at present and I can only thank the few guys now coming on board with offers of help.
We are in for the fight of our lives over the next 10 years to retain even a semblence of the rights we now take for granted. Recreational fishing is clearly the next great green battleground and so far we are losing, and losing badely.
Regards
KC
TFPQ
Is this the beginning of the end for Moreton Bay as a recreational fishery. You be the judge. Don't sit back and wait for this one to happen guys and girls. Do something now.
Having a vested intrest in fishing i can no longer sit back and wait for this to happen i intend to do what i can and try and make a difference.
I agree, we do need to do something about this not just for Moreton Bay but everywhere. All these posts tell us we have to do something.
For many of us though we do not know to whom and how to respond to this. Could those in the know please inform us 'masses' as to how to we can fight this. I will gladly write lettters, etc. Assuming these have any influence.
Waiting until the next election to have your say is way too late.
troy
Troy,
I understand what you are asking, it does seem a little difficult working out where to start.
Probably the best bet is to join TFP and encourage anyone else you know to join. Next is to get involved with meetings and maybe submissions ect can be sent to the approcriate persons from the branch of TFP closest to you. We have a North Brisbane Branch here at Bribie and I believe there is one starting around the Southside of Brissie. Maybe we can post a contact list for people wanting to get involved, in TFP'S web forum (link below). I'll start a thread on there for starters.
It is so true we have to move now.... otherwise we have no chance of protecting our rights!!
Cheers Col (Jay's Dad)
http://www.fishingparty.com.au/
Bummer can't get onto tfp's site????
Maybe Derek could also link this thread back to general chat also so it directs a few more people to this topic ?
Let's get this rolling!
Col
Col
Sent you a PM.
Looking at this now and expect to post something further in due course so hang on.
TFPQ site is working for me. I understand that Kev Collins will be also posting here shortly to let people know what they can do.
Cheers.
Derek
Happy to report that the planned formation of another Brisbane branch to compliment the one on Bribie is moving forward well. Be ready for the fight of your lives guys. You know the bay and TFPQ will need all the input and advice you can give us.
Far more importantly it will need the mustering of manpower and members come election time. We can huff & puff all we like but until we can post some seriuos numbers on election day we are just another lobby group who will be paid lip service by self serving politicians.
Tide has turned guys and about to start flowing our way for a change.
KC
Folks
Below is an extract from the Marine Parks (Moreton Bay) Zoning Plan 1997. As you can see it expires on 1 September 2008. I should have realised this before as most legislation has an expiry date and usually that is on the 10th anniversary of it's commencement. Some time prior to that date the Minister is required to review it. This is where they got the 10 year review.
What does this mean for us?
What it means is that every organisation and person who has an interest in the future of Moreton Bay should be lobbying the Government to get some proper input into the discussion paper prior to it's release. The Greens and conservationaists are already at it as can be seen in the original post on this thread and if we (recreational fishers) do not do the same then the greens and conservationists will get what they want. That my friends is 30% to 50% closures.
Remember also, those closures wont be the sand flats of Moreton Bay, they will be 30% to 50% of your favourite fishing areas.
THERE IS STILL TIME
Cheers
Derek
Marine Parks (Moreton Bay) Zoning Plan 1997 SL No. 385
made by the chief executive, Department of Environment on 24 October 1997
notfd gaz 14 November 1997 pp 1164–5
ss 1–2 commenced on date of notification
remaining provisions commenced 1 December 1997 (see s 2)
exp 1 September 2008 (see SIA s 54)
Note—The expiry date may have changed since this reprint was published. See the
latest reprint of the SIR for any change.
This one is on the AGENDA to be discussed at the public meeting of The Fishing Party on Tuesday 7th Feb - Moreton Bay Trailer Boat club Fairlead Cr Manly Brisbane starting at 7:30 ( members and non members welcome)
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