Govt plan for no-go zones confirmed by Greens

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Are they going to restrict fishing or not?

Reading through the media releases on web sites the Premier says:

“We will involve representatives of all major fishing and boating groups in the development of the review.” Premier’s office 2 September 2006

Anna Bligh says the review has not started : “The review is due to be completed in 2008, and hasn’t even started yet,” 2 September 2006

But the Greens say the review has not only started but been concluded as the state government has a plan for no go zones across sections of the Bay.

Writing in response to the Nationals Fishing policy: “This is in contradiction to the state government's plan for no-go zones across sections of the Bay.” 27 Aug Juanita Wheeler Spokesperson, Queensland Greens.

So what is going on? Perhaps the answer lays in the final media release.

“The Greens will recommend direct preferences to the Labor party in 13 seats” “Greens lead spokesperson Juanita Wheeler said the party had negotiated with the ALP on a number of issues” Juanita Wheeler Greens 1 September 2006

[fishingjew]

I would say they are HERES talk of compensation to the recreational and
commercial fishing industries for their losses? From the estimates committee g-primary industries and fishing 20 july 2006


From the estimates committee g-primary industries and fishing 20 july 2006

Mr HORAN: I refer to the department’s role in managing fisheries, which appears on page 1-31 of
the MPS. You would be aware of conservation groups calling for up to half of Moreton Bay to be closed
to commercial and recreational fishing. Can you guarantee that you will not close down a significant
portion of Moreton Bay to commercial and recreational fishing if the Beattie government is returned to
power at the next state election?
Mr MULHERIN: Fisheries are an important part of the portfolio. Decisions relating to that are
within the responsibility of the minister for environment. I will continue to work to ensure that we have
sustainable fisheries.
Mr HORAN: Also on that same page relating to fisheries, you would be aware of the federal
government paying compensation in the representative area program zones. When the Beattie
government brought in the complementary zones, it did not pay compensation. If there is any
rezoning—
CHAIR: Could member refer to the page of the MPS.
Mr HORAN: Yes, I said it was the same as the one before, 1-31. If the Beattie government makes
any changes to the Hervey Bay fishing areas and the Moreton Bay fishing areas, particularly if you put
them into reserves instead of zones, are you prepared to pay compensation to the recreational and
commercial fishing industries for their losses?
Mr MULHERIN: Those matters are important matters. On 24 May I introduced to
parliament amendments to the Fisheries Act which significantly strengthen the property rights of
commercial fishing licence holders while making provision for compensation should these rights be
reduced or removed for the benefit of other user groups. Any compensation payable will be made up of
two components. The first component provides compensation for the loss in market value of the fishing
licence. The second component provides for a loss of up to three years of taxable income where access
to the fishery is lost or reduced.
In relation to the first component, it is proposed that compensation payable will be calculated by
determining the average value of similar licences and adding a further 20 per cent to this amount. This
approach recognises that, while many commercial fishing licences are similar, there is a wide variation

market values due to factors such as the location of fishing activity and the fishing history attached to
the licence. By adding 20 per cent to the average market price, I believe that the affected commercial
fishers will receive fair compensation for any loss in the value of their licence. There are many other
factors that need to be considered when determining appropriate compensation for the loss of fishery
access rights. These include the extent to which licence values have been diminished, the extent to
which annual income has been diminished and other circumstances specific to the issues at the time
and the individuals involved.
To ensure that all these issues are factored into the determination of compensation under the
Fisheries Act, my department has commenced drafting a compensation policy to give full effect to
these amendments. The development of this policy will be undertaken in full consultation with the fishing
industry. To date, the work undertaken in developing the compensation policy has been focused on
collating background material from other Australian jurisdictions on the compensation principles applied
to other areas of national resource management, such as water and forestry.
In addition, international approaches to this concept will also be explored, particularly the
experiences of Canada and other Commonwealth countries as well as the excellent work undertaken in
this area by the Food and Agricultural Organisation of the United Nations. It is intended that this
information will form the basis of discussion material that will be used in future consultation with key
stakeholder groups, with particular emphasis on consultation with the commercial fishing sector. In
relation to the commercial fishing sector, discussions with the QSIA will commence once they have
finalised their consultation with members on the future direction and structure of their organisation

[stevedemon]

Hi all
in Saturdays Courier Mail front page the greens have stated that they will give all preference vote to the Labour party in all seats so from the above statement i would say the deals have already been done and the labour party is in hiding of facts once agian denie-abilitily and lair-bilitily seem the usual out come

Cheers
Steve

[Hornblower]

Has anybody asked Juanita Wheeler directly what the Government plan is. She has let the cat out of the bag, and we are being lied to by the Labor party. I will post the response from my Local member in a new thread - says much of the same but he goes a little bit further bagging the "scare campaign" on the Moreton Bay Plan.

Cheers

[stevedemon]

Hi hornblower
mate the proof is in the writing the greens have also let the cat out of the bag and as in my above post this was on front page Courier mail Saturday
it will not matter which pollie in the labour party you write to they are all saying the same thing in simliar letters they will protected there own in any way they can the only differents is they change the response to show some concern but the deals have been done

Cheers
Steve

[kc]

Man, I can almost here it now....Premier Pete at the press conference.

"Look I make no apologies for wanting to protect Moreton Bay for future generations. This is a world class environmental management plan and both recreational and commercial fishers will still have access to large areas of the Bay....just like I promised they would"

To Whit, (they can still go fishing Just that we have shut them out of the good areas and I'm back in power thanks to my cosy deal with the greens Clever me)

f&^%$

KC

[Luvinit]

Its not often that I agree with Ron Boswell but one statement he made on Saturday at the rally at Cleveland was
"Make no mistake Peter Beattie has form on things like this" (or words to that effect)

Beattie has backflipped, and screwed over so many people on so many issues but his media-savvy, lying allows him to portray himself as a saint.

When discussing a pungent crock of sh!t, he describes it as a powerful fertiliser, capable of promoting growth!!

I don't know how he can live with himself, but that's another matter.

Whether he has done a deal or not he is unlikely to have left any conclusive evidence, so it will probably never be PROVEN as a deal before the election. So we have to look at Probabilities

His track record shows it is more likely that he HAS done a deal than not. He is also more likely to mis-manage the issue rather than manage it effectively.

My View You can't trust Beattie AT ALL.

By the time the next election comes round it'll be too late.

Get rid of him NOW or the next election campaigns will end up featuring a repetitive TV add with Beattie's voice saying "You Can't Fish In Queensland" (spoken in a similar tone to the "You Can't Govern Queensland" Ads)

[hicksy]

BOATING BONANZA FOR QUEENSLAND

A re-elected Beattie Government will spend more than $40 million to build, upgrade and maintain public boat ramps around Queensland over the next three years.

Premier Peter Beattie today said the program would include an additional $12 million to build an additional 50 ramps across the state.

“The program will help us keep pace with the rapid growth of recreational boat ownership and waterways use,” Mr Beattie said.

“Boat ownership is booming here. It’s growing at around 5 per cent a year – more than twice the rate of our population growth.

“One in 22 people in Queensland is a registered boat owner. The number is 200,000 – and rising.

“We’re meeting that tremendous growth by providing new and better boat ramps for boaties from the Gold Coast to Torres Strait.”

Mr Beattie said boating was big business in Queensland, with a turnover of around $1.2 billion a year.

“Not only are we investing in the boating industry, we’re investing in the 7000 people who work in the industry and those who take to the water every day.

“The State Government has funded nearly 50 new boat ramps since January 1998.

“As well as funding new ones, we’re spending money on the existing 300 boat public ramps right across the state.

“Compare our investment to the $2 million spent by the Coalition when they were in Government. They dropped anchor for a while and left the boaties high and dry.

“A re-elected Beattie Government will continue to support boaties, by providing new and better boat ramps and facilities at camping grounds used by boaties and their families.”

Mr Beattie said the Government allocated $18 million over three years from 2004-05 for a range of new or upgraded boating facilities.

“The 2006-07 Budget includes $14.5 million for new and upgraded recreational boating facilities, infrastructure works and navigation channels,” Mr Beattie said.

“Another $11 million was allocated in 2007-08 on new and upgraded recreational boating facilities and navigation channels, infrastructure and maintenance works.

“And a re-elected Government will allocate an additional $12 million ($6 million a year over two years over 07/08 and 08/09) to take the total provided for boat ramps and other boating infrastructure during a fourth term to more than $40 million.

“It will allow us to build, in consultation with councils, an additional 50 new ramps over the next three years.

“Queensland has a marine environment that is the envy of other states and we want to make sure that our facilities are first-rate too.

“A re-elected Beattie Government will continue to support boaties, by building new and better boat ramps and facilities for boaties and their families and friends.”


This was released in late AUgust just come across it now.
The above Doesn't sound like a political party that wants to shutdown the bay to me!

[fish2eat]

thr "review" will be a piece of window dressing sham, at a cost of millions to the taxpayers, to provide documentary justification for what has already been decided. It's like date rape...you've been screwed before you wake up and find out......nothing Beattie says can be trusted, NOTHING at all.

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[quote author=Hornblower link=1157436272/0#3 date=1157455348]Has anybody asked Juanita Wheeler directly what the Government plan is. quote]


Yes a senior journalist phone her up yesterday. He confirmed to me yesterday in writing and later face to face that The Greens have a deal with the governmnet to follow the AMCS recommendations (30% to 50% closures)

She does not have it in writing - but these matters never are because they are illegal ( electoral Act)

[Luvinit]

The statement by Beattie quoted above is interesting, note the wording
"the Government allocated $18 million over three years from 2004-05 for a range of new or upgraded boating facilities."

he doesn't say how much they've spent, he says how much they ALLOCATED.

He's done this with roads too, he makes budget allocations then doesnt spend the money and syphons the underspend off to other things. There is much noise about the allocation and the actual results are swept under the carpet.

This man has PROVEN that he can't be trusted on many many issues already. I, for one, will NOT trust him with my fishing rights!!