Support Shane Boese TFPQ Candidate

[Hooker1]

What is Shane Boese stand on Professional Fisherman using the bay? Does he consider Professional Fishermans use of the bay sustainable?

[Argle]

Hey Mitch, was nice to meet you at the stand on Friday. Keep up the good work, and all the best Shane for this weekend. Ill be working (again >) but lets hope the outcome helps keep fishing well and truly in the political limelight.

Cheers and beers
Scott

[kc]

In regards the TFPQ stand on commercial fishing in the Bay (& elsewhere) it is covered in our policy document.

In essence we support all sustainable fishing and likewise oppose all forms of unsustainable fishing.

We support the rights of every Australian to access our seafood, most certainaly including non fishers and a viable commercial fishery is both important and to be encouraged.

That said, and we have already had this discussion with QSIA. The Fishing Party and commercial fishers are "brother in arms" on a number of issues but will never agree on others.

We have a seriuos problem with inshore Beam & Otter Board trawl. The by-catch issue is just too great and not only does this fishery damage inshore fin fish stocks (which rec fishers target), it also damages the long term viability of the inshore net fishery.

We are oppossed to fisheries which are export driven and do not meet the stated aim of the commercial sector (to provide fresh seafood for Australians). Such fisheries as the live trout trade are not supported and we have a policy which dictates that at least 60% of all commercial catches are to be directed to the dometic market.

We also oppose the commercial harvest of all billfish species.

There are always going to be sticking points with recs and pro's over catch allocation and no doubt, pretty strong feelings about this on both sides of the fence.

The bigger risk however is the common enemy, the ultra green lobby and we need to recognise that fact and move on.

At the end of the day, we are all just fishermen and TFPQ respects the rights of individuals to earn a decent living and also wants us all to be able to buy Australian fish in our fish shops, restaurants and supermarkets. The day we are a BASA free zone can't come too soon.

KC

[Hooker1]

Hi KC,

Thanks for anwering my questions. The reason why I specifically asked about Moreton Bay was because the TFPQ policy document is not clear enough with regard to issues with this Bay. Beam and Otter board is obvously opposed, but what about other commercial forms of fishing in the Bay? Do you support a buy back of Moreton Bay Commercial fishing licences? Do you support closed seasons for species within the bay? Do you support the closure of some areas of the bay or none at all?

Does any of your funding come from the commercial sector?

Regards,
Brian.

[kc]

Hi Brian

In dot point reply.

Beam and Otter board is obvously opposed, Yes

but what about other commercial forms of fishing in the Bay? We do not oppose sustainable commercial fishing.

Do you support a buy back of Moreton Bay Commercial fishing licences? Yes. If for reasons of fisheries management or greater public resource allocation a commercial fisher is forced out, then they should be duely compensated. Buy backs are the best option.

Do you support closed seasons for species within the bay? If a particular species is "in trouble" (& nothing I have seen leads me to that belief) then closed spawning seasons can be a good idea. The closed season on Barra for example has been an outstanding success. It does raise the point that lock-outs are a last resort, not a first option. I was told over the weekend that the bay is enjoying the best snapper season in years so current management regimes must already be working. At this stage we do not believe closed seasons on any particular species are warranted but would alter this view if true science could show a need for a particular species which aggregates for spawning and is then targeted to a point of unsustainablity.

Do you support the closure of some areas of the bay or none at all? Closures are a last resort for a failing fishery, so unless we see some evidence of seriuos and unsustainable overfishing we would not support any closures.

Does any of your funding come from the commercial sector? No, not $1

Cheers

KC

[seatime]

TFPQ endorsed candidate Shane Boese on the campaign trail, Quarry Rd Birkdale.
Stop and have a chat as you pass or sound your horn.

[Chaz]

[quote author=Redspeckle link=1155715416/0#0 date=1155715416]Shane Boese is Running As Independent candidate for Cleveland on Behalf of TFPQ

That sounds great. But -

Who is Shane Boese ?
Why should I vote for him?
Why is he not publicly stating his position on matters?
What does he stand for?
What are his policies?
What is his exact stance on the bay closures?
Where is his Bio?
Etc.
Etc.

Sorry to be the devils advocate but I see a lot of posts from people like KC about the closures, election, etc. but not from Shane.

[/quote]

I can find some answers to the questions above but nothing of substance on anything other than bay closures. On one hand I wish Shane all the best for Saturday but I won't be voting for him. I'm not confident Shane would be any more than a one issue politician. Will Shane represent the interests of ALL his constituents or only act in the interests of the fishing party? What does he stand for? What are his policies on the vast range of other issues that are of interest to the other members of my family? I am specifically concerned that although officially an independent, he is essentially a Fishing Party puppet if I have followed this thread properly. I don't want a member of parliament who only works for a special interest group. Yes! I have an "I fish and I vote" sticker on car and boat and I do get in the ear of every pollie I can get hold of. I'm not the Devil's Advocate here; just offering some feedback on something of importance to me and my family.

[seatime]

Hi Chaz

If you're after policy statements why don't you contact The Fishing Party directly.

http://www.fishingparty.com.au

[Chaz]

Hi Chaz

If you're after policy statements why don't you contact The Fishing Party directly.

http://www.fishingparty.com.au

I'll check it out and get back.

[BAIT_MAN]

[quote author=Ausfish link=1155715416/0#2 date=1155720819][quote author=Redspeckle link=1155715416/0#0 date=1155715416]Shane Boese is Running As Independent candidate for Cleveland on Behalf of TFPQ

That sounds great. But -

Who is Shane Boese ?
Why should I vote for him?
Why is he not publicly stating his position on matters?
What does he stand for?
What are his policies?
What is his exact stance on the bay closures?
Where is his Bio?
Etc.
Etc.

Sorry to be the devils advocate but I see a lot of posts from people like KC about the closures, election, etc. but not from Shane.

[/quote]

I can find some answers to the questions above but nothing of substance on anything other than bay closures. On one hand I wish Shane all the best for Saturday but I won't be voting for him. I'm not confident Shane would be any more than a one issue politician. Will Shane represent the interests of ALL his constituents or only act in the interests of the fishing party? What does he stand for? What are his policies on the vast range of other issues that are of interest to the other members of my family? I am specifically concerned that although officially an independent, he is essentially a Fishing Party puppet if I have followed this thread properly. I don't want a member of parliament who only works for a special interest group. Yes! I have an "I fish and I vote" sticker on car and boat and I do get in the ear of every pollie I can get hold of. I'm not the Devil's Advocate here; just offering some feedback on something of importance to me and my family.[/quote]

Hi Chaz
Mate i dont say much here but your questions do need to be answered.

Yes I do have views on social, economic and community issues.

As a TFPQ preferred candidate, I am contesting the election on their platform of fishing issues - in particular Moreton Bay. Even though I am an Independent on the Ballot Paper, I am essentially TFPQ and guided by their policies which makes it inappropriate for me to campaign on issues that fall outside those policies.

Should I find myself elected to public Office on September 9, I will have the luxury of being able to vote on issues by way of conscience rather than having to "tow the party line" like many of the majors.

I am fairly sure that the Greens started as a "One Issue" Party and have evolved into an organisation capable of running 75 state candidates with policies covering all aspects of politics (correct me if I am mistaken).

The point is, we all need to start somewhere, and this is where TFPQ is starting - with genuine people who have not yet been tarnished by the political process, but are prepared to stand up for what they believe in, in what seems like a David and Golliath situation...... and we know who won that one dont we ....

Chaz I hope this has answered your questions and should you have any more I pop in here from time to time and will reply if required.

Regards
Shane Boese
Inderpendent Candidate for Cleveland
Endorsed by The Fishing Party Queensland

[RASA]

Chaz

I guess this means that you know all the policies of the somebody else who you are voting for. Would he be a "PUPPET" of another party by any chance or would he be able to dictate and control his ideals to his constituents.

Also would somebody else or anybody you voted for before represent the best interests of ALL his constituents. A very rare commodity in major party structure.

You can have an each way bet by giving Shane No 1 to make the single issue protest and then give No 2 to the bloke who addresses ALL your issues and then walk away. Just a thought.


Bob Smith

[Chaz]

Yes I do have views on social, economic and community issues.

As a TFPQ preferred candidate, I am contesting the election on their platform of fishing issues - in particular Moreton Bay. Even though I am an Independent on the Ballot Paper, I am essentially TFPQ and guided by their policies which makes it inappropriate for me to campaign on issues that fall outside those policies.

Should I find myself elected to public Office on September 9, I will have the luxury of being able to vote on issues by way of conscience rather than having to "tow the party line" like many of the majors.

Shane,

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I take your point re: obvious and declared affiliations. What I would like to know is something about your conscience and your views on social, economic, and community issues. Are you capable of representing more than just fishing interests?

Brenden

[Chaz]

Chaz
I guess this means that you know all the policies of the somebody else who you are voting for.
Bob Smith

Yes Bob, pretty much. And major party policy statements help me predict how a candidate affilitated with a major party would vote on a range of issues. I know where Shane stands on fishing issues - I want to know what would happen if an issue like Abortion (just an example) came up.

Also would somebody else or anybody you voted for before represent the best interests of ALL his constituents. A very rare commodity in major party structure.

You can't please all of the people all of the time. I will vote for the person who will represent me on a majority of issues important to me. I don't know how Shane might represent constituents on anything other than fishing.

You can have an each way bet by giving Shane No 1 to make the single issue protest and then give No 2 to the bloke who addresses ALL your issues and then walk away. Just a thought.

You make a good point here and I am considering the value of a protest vote. My concern is that the person who gets my number 2 vote might not get in. If Shane does get up, in this scenario, I don't know if he will represents my interests.

I appreciate your input. You might have guessed that I am trying to make sense of it all and I do think my vote is important.

Brenden

[Gazza]

I know where Shane stands on fishing issues - I want to know what would happen if an issue like Abortion (just an example) came up.

Hi Chaz...maybe "not" a good example

ALL politicians have a "conscience vote" i.e. INDEPENDENT on "this" issue...

Q. do you "know" which way your preferred candidate will vote ,on abortion??

p.s. gaz-opinion , I "thought" it was up to the individual(independent) woman i.e. with the pregnant "issue"
(religion is in there somehere too)

[Jeremy]

Yes Bob, pretty much. And major party policy statements help me predict how a candidate affilitated with a major party would vote on a range of issues. I know where Shane stands on fishing issues - I want to know what would happen if an issue like Abortion (just an example) came up.
Brenden

That is quite a statement to make. Did you know (for instance) that the Beattie Gov't would vote to make lying in parliament no longer an offfence? Did you know the Howard Gov't's policy on Industrial relations and that they would vote to wipe out much of the power of the unions and our rights at work?

These sort of examples could go on forever. Point is, I don't think anyone can honestly say they know what the party they vote for will do. They just have to hope. I would rather have an independent who doesn't have to vote along party lines and acting on their conscience, than a Government with a big majority who can do whatever they like.

Shane Boese has BUCKLEY'S chance of getting elected. Compare his campaign to that of liberal or labour. But the %age of votes he gets is critical in sending the message to whoever does get elected. If he gets enough votes, a strong message will be sent and that is the best we can hope for.

Jeremy