An Inconvenient truth?

[seatime]

Evolution? big subject that one,there are way too many gaps in the classic theory of evolution-far too many to discuss here-but adaptation is often mistakenly confused with evolution.Cheers!Jace.

shagger

phil osofy and evolution, my second favourite subjects

'mistakenly confused' , almost a double entendre, isn't it?

adaptation can be directly linked to evolution if the next generation of the species acts out instinctively.
"learned experiences" are passed onto the next generation.

e.g. the current theory of modern man leaving Sthn Africa and venturing into the world unknown, is based on his adaptation to a new diet.
because of his herbivorous beginnings he was forced to leave and follow the animal herds to sate his new carnivorous diet.
he needed to adapt to his new environment and hence evolved, as we continue to evolve today.
the environment is also evolving, of course.

back to the fishing
regards
Steve.

[Kendall249]

Don't start me on this one!!! 20000 characters will go in no time if we are talking evolution. The biggest question is in regards to evolution is that we evolved over millions of years, then in a blink, relatively speaking, of an eye we became intelligent. You mentioned how we came fro s. Africa though its only mitochondrial DNA that had been tracked back to Africa. Mitochondrion replicated independent to us and are a different entity, but thats a long story although very interesting. mitochondrial DNA is from maternal line. I'm to tried and had too many to go in to this.

By the way, adaption is a part of speciation and adaption, therefore evolution.

[seatime]

take it with a grain of salt, I'd had too many also

regards

[rough_shag]

There ya see,now you're going down that well trodden path of debate about evolution etc etc and mate we'd all be on here in 20yrs time still debating that one wouldn't we?.Just to clarify, what I was raving on about before was evolution in the classic Darwinian sense which is kinda different to simple adaptation due to environmental and other effects because Darwin proposed that one 'species' could completely change(evolve) into a completely new species over time which has never been seen to happen or be proven to this day.
Anyway after yesterdays hammering on the high seas it all seems far to deep and meaningful for this little black duck right now.Cheers! Jace.

[PinHead]

There ya see,now you're going down that well trodden path of debate about evolution etc etc and mate we'd all be on here in 20yrs time still debating that one wouldn't we?.Just to clarify, what I was raving on about before was evolution in the classic Darwinian sense which is kinda different to simple adaptation due to environmental and other effects because Darwin proposed that one 'species' could completely change(evolve) into a completely new species over time which has never been seen to happen or be proven to this day.
Anyway after yesterdays hammering on the high seas it all seems far to deep and meaningful for this little black duck right now.Cheers! Jace.

I can prove that has happened Jace...been in many a night club...early in the night..no attractive women there...at about 3am those same women have evolved into absolutely stunning women. Seen it with my own eyes I have.

[bidkev]

[quote author=rough_shag link=1159014323/90#93 date=1161298508]There ya see,now you're going down that well trodden path of debate about evolution etc etc and mate we'd all be on here in 20yrs time still debating that one wouldn't we?.Just to clarify, what I was raving on about before was evolution in the classic Darwinian sense which is kinda different to simple adaptation due to environmental and other effects because Darwin proposed that one 'species' could completely change(evolve) into a completely new species over time which has never been seen to happen or be proven to this day.
Anyway after yesterdays hammering on the high seas it all seems far to deep and meaningful for this little black duck right now.Cheers! Jace.

I can prove that has happened Jace...been in many a night club...early in the night..no attractive women there...at about 3am those same women have evolved into absolutely stunning women. Seen it with my own eyes I have.
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It's not them that have evolved mate..........it's you.....you've just regressed down the evolutionary scale due to the grog

kev

[seatime]

[quote author=PinHead link=1159014323/90#94 date=1161339401][quote author=rough_shag link=1159014323/90#93 date=1161298508]There ya see,now you're going down that well trodden path of debate about evolution etc etc and mate we'd all be on here in 20yrs time still debating that one wouldn't we?.Just to clarify, what I was raving on about before was evolution in the classic Darwinian sense which is kinda different to simple adaptation due to environmental and other effects because Darwin proposed that one 'species' could completely change(evolve) into a completely new species over time which has never been seen to happen or be proven to this day.
Anyway after yesterdays hammering on the high seas it all seems far to deep and meaningful for this little black duck right now.Cheers! Jace.

I can prove that has happened Jace...been in many a night club...early in the night..no attractive women there...at about 3am those same women have evolved into absolutely stunning women. Seen it with my own eyes I have.
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It's not them that have evolved mate..........it's you.....you've just regressed down the evolutionary scale due to the grog

kev[/quote]

I've been there too, regressed into a single cell organism, or was that a single organ organism...

[DICER]

it's called chewing an arm off.....or two

[tunaman]

Thats happened to me in my younger days. When home with a beautiful
woman, and woken up with a dugong.




signed tunaman

[manchild]

Funny that happened to me very often tunaman
By the way evolution still sound more believelable than the creation story .No offence for religious people.
George

[tunaman]

Manchild. I couldnt agree with you more. I usually stay away from religious
points of veiw. But in this case, Ill make an exception.
I had some moremens come over one day, and they tried to tell me that the world was made in 7 days. And I said how do you fit in 450 million
years of life on earth. They tried to get away, but I said, if your going to come here and preach to me for what science has allready proven as a fact, well I said, you,ll listen to me. Its only fair. So I when on for half an hour. You,ll never see two godly people so glad to get out of a house.
And when I say, prays from tunaman and family, its only to be polite.
I only beleve in one god, and thats me. .
Just joking.
But its funny, when people come close to death, they seem to call on god. I beleve, we live and we die. We are just a page in the history of life.

Some say beings from another world came here and started it all.
And in saying that, if I lived 2000 thousand years ago, and something came out of the sky, Id probably call it god too.

Just some food for thought.


signed tunaman

[manchild]

Yes i couldnt agree more ,the part that gets me if there was adam and eve with two sons ,as we all know one of them died.So this fellow either made love to himself or to one of his parents seriously when i ask this question from the visiting missionaries who by the way seems to enjoy early sunday visits ,they usually turn pale and run away.Again no offence intented.
George

[tunaman]

Did one of them die I only got as far as the 10 comandments. I read half of them and tossed it away. .
But the bible was made to control people. They made people fear the word of god, and for they own personal gains, in some respects. And on the good side, it helped to bring people out of the dark ages. etc. Raping,killing, basically it was the frist type of law and order.
Now I think god has served its purpose. And lets face it. religion is not going so well today, is it.
Even after 2000+ years, we havent learnt much.


signed tunaman

[PinHead]

What is wrong with religion today? You may be referring to those that use the name of religion to further their causes but those that do follow their religion are good people.

There has been a lot of deaths in the name of religion over the years but the true followers these days are not like that.

I do not care what religion anyone follows as long as they endeavour to lead a peaceful and law abiding life.

[tunaman]

Here,Here! I couldnt agree more. Each to their own I say.




signed tunaman