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  1. #16

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Quote Originally Posted by baitable View Post
    bit of weight to carry around... that and reliability of a battery not exploding on the water was a big issue in my decision to pony up and just get a 36v battery from enerdrive... it works and suits my spot lock needs for a big day on the water for a cat which is essentially a brick in the wind...
    battery not exploding on the water? What made you concerned a battery would explode on the water?
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  2. #17

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Closer to 41.7v, my 12v 120amp LiFePo4 sits around 13.9v.

  3. #18

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Quote Originally Posted by baitable View Post
    voltage is deemed too high with 3 qty lithiums linked up according to some users with end voltage in excess of 36v... at the end of the day everyone has an opinion and a budget and i guess you can listen to whomever you want... theory vs practise.
    what charger do you use for your 36v? I would,have thought most 36v chargers have a bulk/absotbtion voltage of 42.6v?

    With a max voltage per cell of 3.65v. LifePo4 cells are put in series of 4 to make nominal 12v batteries. I’d assumed possibly incorrectly, that a 100ah 36v battery was simply a 3p4s configuration of 100ah cells. With a max voltage of 43.8v and a nominal voltage of 38.4v (3.2v nominal per cell).

    11 cells could be used instead of 12 but then the nominal voltage drops below 36v and the 3p4s goes out the window.
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  4. #19

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Quote Originally Posted by Dignity View Post
    Closer to 41.7v, my 12v 120amp LiFePo4 sits around 13.9v.
    that sounds about right to me. All my Victron chargers have a bulk charge of 14.2 and a float of 13.8. Even with a custom charge profile of 14.6v and there’s very much less than 1% capacity difference between charging to 14.6v and 14.2v.
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  5. #20

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovey80 View Post
    that sounds about right to me. All my Victron chargers have a bulk charge of 14.2 and a float of 13.8. Even with a custom charge profile of 14.6v and there’s very much less than 1% capacity difference between charging to 14.6v and 14.2v.
    It’s the issue between mk and lithium not charging profile. You are meant to disconnect the battery from mk before charging to avoid sending it through the mk.

  6. #21

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Quote Originally Posted by baitable View Post
    It’s the issue between mk and lithium not charging profile. You are meant to disconnect the battery from mk before charging to avoid sending it through the mk.
    Now I am confused. What has that got to do with the below?

    Quote Originally Posted by baitable
    voltage is deemed too high with 3 qty lithiums linked up according to some users with end voltage in excess of 36v... at the end of the day everyone has an opinion and a budget and i guess you can listen to whomever you want... theory vs practise
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  7. #22

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovey80 View Post
    Now I am confused. What has that got to do with the below?

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    Simple- mk are voltage sensitive with circuit boards. Too high and they spit chips…

  8. #23

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    So with all this info Im thinking that whether it be 12v,24v or 36v minnkota its best to use a volt step thing for what ever volt minnkota you have and battery system be it AGM or Lithium so its getting nothing but the right volts?????????.

  9. #24

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Quote Originally Posted by chris69 View Post
    So with all this info Im thinking that whether it be 12v,24v or 36v minnkota its best to use a volt step thing for what ever volt minnkota you have and battery system be it AGM or Lithium so its getting nothing but the right volts?????????.
    That’s part of the reason I got myself one of these.

    https://revolutionpoweraustralia.com...r-12v-36v-50a/

    The other reason is to maximise the 12v charge coming from the outboards.
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  10. #25

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Update for you Lovely, went out Sunday, conditions were good, out 4:30 am or thereabouts and gave up fishing about 3pm. There was 2.5hrs running on the big motor the rest was mostly spot locking, going off spot lock to drift or reposition but prop still running. Only problem I had was spot locking the first few times, reconfigered the gps and it was fine after that. About 11:30am the wind shifted the leccy would pop out every now and then but it would very quickly get back on the spot, rhe 3 blade prop works really well.
    Total recharge requirement was 22.3 amps. With a 120ah battery I would be comfortable going for a couple of days out and heavier usage.
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  11. #26

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Great update Sam, I am sure that will be greatly appreciated by plenty of people.

    Cheers
    Lee


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  12. #27

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Quote Originally Posted by Dignity View Post
    Update for you Lovely, went out Sunday, conditions were good, out 4:30 am or thereabouts and gave up fishing about 3pm. There was 2.5hrs running on the big motor the rest was mostly spot locking, going off spot lock to drift or reposition but prop still running. Only problem I had was spot locking the first few times, reconfigered the gps and it was fine after that. About 11:30am the wind shifted the leccy would pop out every now and then but it would very quickly get back on the spot, rhe 3 blade prop works really well.
    Total recharge requirement was 22.3 amps. With a 120ah battery I would be comfortable going for a couple of days out and heavier usage.
    That's really good usage if they draw 38 amps max i would have thought it might have been a lot more.

  13. #28

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Quote Originally Posted by chris69 View Post
    That's really good usage if they draw 38 amps max i would have thought it might have been a lot more.
    Max 38 amps but who runs around at near max for any length of time, I use the tinnie with the 12v system far more aggressively and with similar max draw but only run at speed 7 due to it being old -2013- so drawing well under,

    If I only wanted to move up to 20 m I used the leccy but not at full throttle as not a lot of rush but if it was 100m I'd leave it on pointed it in the right direction and used the outboard at around 6knots, often wouldn't get to that spot as would find signs of fish in between.
    If Lovely is going to use an inverter he'll be able to run full boar but will have to factor in around 8% loss.
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  14. #29

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    The DC converter is a brilliant idea, wish I’d looked into it. I recently added a third battery under the console, a 100ah 24v lithium for the Minn Kota. Might have been easier to install a 200ah+ 12v and replace the 100ah lead acid house battery as well….and a better onboard charging solution.
    have you looked into potential interference? Lots of discussion now about dedicated electric motor or sounder batteries to eliminate interference for the sounder. Not sure about the veracity of all the stuff I see on the subject, but I was frustrated years ago by interference between a Humminbird sounder and my vhf ( Std Horizon). I could use one at a time, the other had to be turned off. The radio was useless if the sounder was on. The sounder was fuzzy but usable if the radio was on. Tried everything, ended up solving with separate batteries and physical distance between them.

  15. #30

    Re: 36v Bow Mount Trolling motors

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev_McC View Post
    The DC converter is a brilliant idea, wish I’d looked into it. I recently added a third battery under the console, a 100ah 24v lithium for the Minn Kota. Might have been easier to install a 200ah+ 12v and replace the 100ah lead acid house battery as well….and a better onboard charging solution.
    have you looked into potential interference? Lots of discussion now about dedicated electric motor or sounder batteries to eliminate interference for the sounder. Not sure about the veracity of all the stuff I see on the subject, but I was frustrated years ago by interference between a Humminbird sounder and my vhf ( Std Horizon). I could use one at a time, the other had to be turned off. The radio was useless if the sounder was on. The sounder was fuzzy but usable if the radio was on. Tried everything, ended up solving with separate batteries and physical distance between them.
    The vhf radio will interfere with most everything on your boat, the charge it pulls is quite high. I have a starter battery and a house wired up through a 2 way switch for emergency only as both batteries are independently charged but I found I needed to put an inline switch between the negatives as using the VHF actually would deploy the left trim tab while calling. Made me do a bit of rewiring once I'd identified why my trim tabs were playing up, I think Ranmar put me onto it, a very big thank you for that as it didn't click for me.

    My starter battery is used for the motor, ekectric winch and trim tabs only, everything else runs off the house.
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