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    Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    Hello.

    What is the quality of the external paintwork like on new bar crushers - from factory?

    I am reading some mixed reviews on this in relation to thin coat, easy chipping, etc…


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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    I've heard the same thing on a couple of Facebook Barcrusher groups (a couple of examples)....... hopefully they are just anomalies.
    With a change of ownership - i'd be keeping an ear out & monitoring the various sites for any trend .

    I still cant work out why they do not have a non painted option like mine ..... I reckon they would sell even more.

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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    I sat down with BC 2 days ago and they did not offer a non painted hull. The standard colour is white.

    Extra for any other paint option.

    What standard of acceptable paintwork should I be expecting for this boat?

    How to measure / determine this minimum standard when it is handed over to me as the customer?

    What are considered popular colour options for this boat?


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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    Mate, do yourself and your crew a huge favour and go unpainted..there are plenty of ways to pretty her up without the headaches of paint...

    I hope the bloke who ever thought it was a great idea to put paint on an alloy hull died of a horrible disease..

    and yeah I have also heard that with all the boatbuilders churning out so many boats that boat quality, welding, paint and even fitout has suffered...some of the photo's I have seen on FB boat pages you cant believe they have been allowed to leave the factory in that state...

    I would do something like this half wrap if I ever bought another new boat..

    half wrap.jpg

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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    Thanks for this advice.

    What were / are the issues associated with painting the BC hull?

    Do these issues / concerns only refer to the external surface (side walls of hull)?

    Does paint offer any protection of this surface?

    How is wrapping better than paint in this saltwater application?

    Splash

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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    Quote Originally Posted by Splash View Post
    Thanks for this advice.

    What were / are the issues associated with painting the BC hull?

    Do these issues / concerns only refer to the external surface (side walls of hull)?

    Does paint offer any protection of this surface?

    How is wrapping better than pain in this application?

    Splash
    Ah mate..the combination of adding paint to alloy with stainless steel fittings and then add saltwater and electricity....its not a good mix at all...in fact its a nightmare..God I wish I hadnt got my current boat painted...

    A wrap is just a big sticker..when it gets scratched up too much just pull or scrape it off and stick a new one on if you want...

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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    painting ally is an art.... and production builders are going to be constrained to time and cost. often its fine... and understandable that it will look tired rather soon, especially with some of the care and attention some owners give it. or dont....

    i agree that if your wanting a fishing battle wagon, go unpainted. consider a wrap for the hull.

    Our Painting team takes just over 2 months to prep and paint our haly hulls. such is the required work and cost to ensure its a bombproof finish

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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    Wow! Interesting . I didn’t know paint would accelerate corrosion / electrolysis.

    Would the bonding agent used to fasten the wrap onto the hull contribute to corrosion in any way?

    Splash

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    Paint doesn’t

    the other things do, it’s just paint makes it look more obvious as it bubbles and lifts

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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    Ok thanks for that clarification.

    All - when you recommend no paint - are you also referring to the internal spaces of the BC such as cabin, gunwales, coatings, transom, etc?

    2 months prep and paint time is amazing!

    Splash

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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    Unfortunately corrosion is something you have to live with when owning an alloy boat - be it painted or unpainted .

    Even unpainted - the minute you use a dissimilar metal .... corrosion will occur ( greatly reduced if there is some kind of interface between stainless screws / bolts)

    Unfortunately even with the best measures taken on a painted boat you can still end up with filiform corrosion ..... a little scratch can start the process .

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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    Thanks Chris.

    So, Is it ideal not to have any interior aluminium surface painted as well?

    Such as internal can fit out, gunwales, foaming too decks, transom, etc??


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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    hello all, back on board after a boat tour of our nor'west, cut short by a very unseasonal low coming in.

    On the subject of painting ally boats, my experience is with the big commercial hulls I used to operate.
    1) Anywhere you drill a hole in a painted surface, corrosion bubbling under the paint WILL start. In a new hull, ALL holes required should be drilled before prime and paint. easy to miss something, or have the customer want to add something later.
    2) Anywhere you have a finished line between painted and unpainted, bubbling will start, sooner or later. General practice for our big ally hulls over here was to paint the wheelhouse and foredeck for cosmetic purposes--everyone wants a brand new boat to look nice--and to use a clear coat on the rest of the hull after acid washing to get a nice even finish. The clear coat only lasted a few years, you needed to strip and re-do if you wanted to maintain good cosmetics ( for a working boat, anyway).

    If you painted the insides of the gunwhales, etc, that paint will bubble along the line of the painted/unpainted. It's unavoidable to have such a line along the join between the sides and the deck, for example. Fastidious washdown and dry storing will slow it down.Anywhere you scratch it, through to metal, it will bubble. On the general subject of painting, it is easier to keep a new glass hull looking good over multiples of years than a new painted ally hull.

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    Re: Bar Crusher - External Paintwork Quality

    Many thanks RanMar.

    Really interesting information.

    After learning all about this today, I will ask BC to exclude all painting of the boat.

    What is the name of the clear coat product you have highlighted?

    Cameron

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