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    Dept of Enviro strikes again..croc killer fined.!

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...?ocid=msedgntp

    A farmer who shot a large Saltie that had apparently been hanging around a cattle crossing on his family property was just fined total of $4500...

    No doubt it posed a threat to his stock, workers and dogs but as is well known in FNQ that Dept of Environment wont remove problem crocs unless they basically eat somebody and when that happens they just shoot any number of larger crocs in that vicinity...

    Without knowing the full story it seems it was just that one larger animal involved and its easy to understand why..

    Moral to the story is "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned "

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    Hmmm, he probably has a case under duty of care or lack of by government.
    Bloody bullshit.
    I'd like to be filthy rich and take on these seat pollishers lol

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    #### him. Zero sympathy for wankers like that who give all shooters and the grazing industry a bad name.

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    Re: Dept of Enviro strikes again..croc killer fined.!

    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
    #### him. Zero sympathy for wankers like that who give all shooters and the grazing industry a bad name.
    Too many big crocs in the systems now they need a good culling , he should be applauded not fined . Matt
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    Re: Dept of Enviro strikes again..croc killer fined.!

    Quote Originally Posted by bluefin59 View Post
    Too many big crocs in the systems now they need a good culling , he should be applauded not fined . Matt

    By what measure. Give me data not anecdotal bullshit from the front bar of the local. People forget what the real croc population was like pre the skin trade. If you don't like crocks stay out of northern Australian rivers.

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    Re: Dept of Enviro strikes again..croc killer fined.!

    CT In the NT the numbers have risen from 3000 or so when they stopped harvesting in the 1970's to over 100 000 now..last supposed assessment in QLD had the number at 30000 which has been widely disputed as being on the low side..

    There is a Croc management plan in QLD but many people have found thats its quite arbitrary and if there is problem croc affecting many folks properties it often doesnt fit the guidelines for removal....

    https://environment.des.qld.gov.au/_...%20crocodiles.

    In the NT there is quite a rigorous trapping program that relocates or kills a few hundred crocs a year from around towns and cattle stations ..

    In QLD I think its just a handful and thats the concern of many people ..

    This blokes actions are not isolated ....He and other graziers are basically forced into those actions because to do nothing is an accident waiting to happen and Dept of Enviro will do nothing unless it fits the guidelines which most often it doesnt.....

    Seriously if there is a 3.5m plus croc moved into a waterhole used by your stock and dogs could you really blame someone for taking action to neutralize the risk..?

    I certainly wouldnt and I think once a croc gets to that size they should be removed from areas close to civilization or cattle farms, homesteads etc...

    I love seeing them while on the river but large ones just cant co-exist in close proximity with humans, pets or livestock...

    Sorry but humans come first.

    Its not just few rednecks bullshitting at the pub about it..

    https://www.9news.com.au/national/fn...6-17cee03e991a


    Many local authorities are concerned also..

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    Re: Dept of Enviro strikes again..croc killer fined.!

    Quote Originally Posted by disorderly View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...?ocid=msedgntp

    A farmer who shot a large Saltie that had apparently been hanging around a cattle crossing on his family property was just fined total of $4500...

    No doubt it posed a threat to his stock, workers and dogs but as is well known in FNQ that Dept of Environment wont remove problem crocs unless they basically eat somebody and when that happens they just shoot any number of larger crocs in that vicinity...

    Without knowing the full story it seems it was just that one larger animal involved and its easy to understand why..

    Moral to the story is "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned "
    Nah the moral of the story is don't take photos of illegal shit especially if you are doing said illegal shit.

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    Re: Dept of Enviro strikes again..croc killer fined.!

    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
    By what measure. Give me data not anecdotal bullshit from the front bar of the local. People forget what the real croc population was like pre the skin trade. If you don't like crocks stay out of northern Australian rivers.
    Staying out of the river is common sense I’d have thought , plenty of evidence of overpopulation of crocs go and find it yourself . To many do gooders and green idiots making life difficult for those that live on and with the land but you’d know better I guess . Matt
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    Re: Dept of Enviro strikes again..croc killer fined.!

    Quote Originally Posted by shortthenlong View Post
    Nah the moral of the story is don't take photos of illegal shit especially if you are doing said illegal shit.
    Thats good advice indeed...!

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    Agree with CT, just gives farmers and hunters a bad name. There’s no evidence of overpopulation that I’m aware of. I thought they had a policy to remove any croc over 3.5m if there was a public notification. They certainly do in CQ.

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    Re: Dept of Enviro strikes again..croc killer fined.!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kev_McC View Post
    Agree with CT, just gives farmers and hunters a bad name. There’s no evidence of overpopulation that I’m aware of. I thought they had a policy to remove any croc over 3.5m if there was a public notification. They certainly do in CQ.
    I didnt think there was many crocs down there in CQ anyway..?...

    The vast majority of the population would be from about Hinchinbrook and north wouldnt it....lately there has been many sightings of 3m plus animals along all the beachs locally around Mission beach no where near any river mouths.......and up here, no. they certainly dont remove crocs over 3.5m unless its been investigated and seen to be harassing people at boat ramps or marinas or such..by definition in the Management plan a "problem" croc is any over 2m thats been harassing's people as thats still still big enough to kill a smaller human...

    You can have 5 foot Salties move into your front yard and nothing will be done unless it eats a child or dog...https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...ents/100281990

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    Re: Dept of Enviro strikes again..croc killer fined.!

    First up - The bloke broke the law & now he has to deal with the consequences . A $3000 fine with no conviction is a slap on the wrist .

    without a doubt that there needs to be a simple process to having crocodiles removed if they are a potential threat - & like in the NT a program of removing them from populated areas .

    Where do you draw the line though ? .... I've launched at 3 boat ramps where there were crocs on the actual boat ramp .... & a couple of others where they were very close to the ramp - Do you remove crocs from places like the Proserpine / Russel Mulgrave rivers ? ..... you cant just remove a dominant male as he will simply be replaced by another. ..... or do you just need to remain croc wise ?

    I' m a bit of a fence sitter when it comes to Crocs ( safe place to be) - I dont think that Humans & crocs can co exist as a 2m Croc can be dangerous .
    I dont know what the answer is for central & northern Qld - they certainly are not Tolerated when they appear down south .

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    Re: Dept of Enviro strikes again..croc killer fined.!

    There’s plenty in the Fitzroy system and surrounds, see them on about a third of my trips in summer, more often in the dry season. If there’s a public notification of any kind, the policy seems to be removal if the animal is over 3.5m. They get sold to croc farmers. There are often croc traps in the city reaches of Rockhampton, and they are regularly seen right in the middle of town. Yes I’m concerned about them - definitely wouldn’t be a kayak fisho here.
    I don’t agree with taking out predators if they eat cattle. Same argument goes for wedge tailed eagles and sheep. Would anyone be happy for a fish farmer to shoot a sea eagle or a Brahminy kite? Most of our livestock are fed to other countries, I’d rather keep our native animals, and educate people to appreciate them and not take dumb risks.

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    Re: Dept of Enviro strikes again..croc killer fined.!

    You don’t shoot them you put a big shark hook out to catch that big bull shark in the water hole , then you know we’re it is on the end of the hook.

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    So we kill dingoes, can't kill snakes, can't kill crocs, can't kill sharks.
    Seems to me we can't kill anything that can kill humans. But kill anything that can't kill us lol. But it's fine to destroy koala habitats, don't allow control burning so when fires do light up, which they will, they kill millions of harmless animals. Makes total sense.
    I don't know the details of the croc shooting, but he probably saved thousands a week in lost stock, in removing the threat, without even mentioning the risk of human lives.
    And if one of his workers got injured or heaven forbid their life, the scum lawyers would nail his arse to the cross for unsafe workplace. Yep the world makes total sense lol.

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