I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

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  • disorderly
    Ausfish Addict

    • Sep 2006
    • 5525

    Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

    Originally posted by gunna View Post
    Why on earth do you think that any other $2-$3k car will have a better gearbox.
    Well thats the bizzare bit...

    What sort of a 4wd, in the current car market, would you actually expect to buy for that sort of money..?

    Its bound to be a total bucket of shit isnt it..? ...

    and as mentioned it will just be more dramas to add to ausfish for years to come...

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    • TheRealPoMo
      Ausfish Silver Member

      • Jul 2014
      • 472

      Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

      I have to agree with the majority here Gaz. If the LTD is ok except for a transmission that is on the way out (all Ford transmissions are on the way out [emoji28] ), stay with it and reco it when it dies - assuming your clearance issues can be sorted with hitch configuration....
      It has plenty of torque and an LSD - stay clear of the green slippery stuff and all good.
      I think if you ignore this common sense then you must just want another new old vehicle which will come with other issues. That's ok, your choice....but you have been given good advice by many so don't cry when you get "I told you so's"

      Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

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      • Mopheus
        Ausfish Silver Member

        • Mar 2019
        • 307

        Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

        Originally posted by billfisher View Post
        I thought a AWD is a 4WD and vice versa.
        Normally 4WD has a transfer case where AWD has a centre differential. That means AWD is better onroad as you have drive to all four wheels where most 4WDs recommend against engaging 4WD on bitumen. Offroad though, lose grip to one wheel of an AWD and (without traction control) it'll just sit there and spin with no torque to the other three.

        Modern AWD systems address this by detecting and braking wheels that are spinning faster to redirect torque to those that have grip. Not sure what the older Territories have so far as traction control goes.

        Even 4WD is still only guaranteed 2WD in the absence of LSDs or lockers. If a 4WD gets crossed up offroad (diagonal corners off ground) it'll just spin the free wheels. Lockers fix that for the axle to which they're fitted by ensuring both wheels turn at the same rate as driveshaft input (or faster, in the case of an auto-locker).

        My Suzuki Sierra is locked front and rear with reduction transfer gearing. It's hilarious what a little toy like that can drive with guaranteed torque to all four wheels. Eg the mudhole below ... a bunch of non-locked Patrols and Landies hung up on that before I idled through it. All down to the lockers.

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        • gunna
          Ausfish Addict

          • Oct 2001
          • 3194

          Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

          Originally posted by Mopheus View Post

          Modern AWD systems address this by detecting and braking wheels that are spinning faster to redirect torque to those that have grip. Not sure what the older Territories have so far as traction control goes.
          Yes. It’s interesting sitting on a steep gravel slope feeling the traction change from wheel to wheel.

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          • stevej
            Ausfish Platinum Member

            • Feb 2007
            • 2456

            Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

            Some have both

            my challenger has a center diff for awd then a transfer case for high low range and factory rear and after market front air lockers
            plus it uses stability and traction control to manipulate things
            no down descent unfortunatly

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            • gazza2006au
              Ausfish Addict

              • Dec 2006
              • 9028

              Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

              I'll see how i go this week if the ford cant reverse the boat up the driveway i'll call a mate or my cousin with his hilux than i'll take it from there

              I have been told air susspensions on my model do very little, the ford is a limo its built for comfort

              I would have no problem at all in my old driveway gates could have been widen to 3+ meters i had a good 30 meter driveway just sucks it was a choice of this house or a 1950's fibro shitter

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              • billfisher
                Ausfish Platinum Member

                • Oct 2004
                • 1459

                Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

                Originally posted by gazza2006au View Post
                I'll see how i go this week if the ford cant reverse the boat up the driveway i'll call a mate or my cousin with his hilux than i'll take it from there

                I have been told air susspensions on my model do very little, the ford is a limo its built for comfort

                I would have no problem at all in my old driveway gates could have been widen to 3+ meters i had a good 30 meter driveway just sucks it was a choice of this house or a 1950's fibro shitter
                Air shocks raise the ride height/ compensate for sagging due to weight on the tow bar, which is your problem. They don't do much for the general ride and handling which is probably what they were referring to.

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                • TheRealPoMo
                  Ausfish Silver Member

                  • Jul 2014
                  • 472

                  Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

                  I'll just add, in about 93 I bought an 82 LTD for the 351, transmission and LSD. The previous owner had a boat dealership up here and the vehicle was his mainstay. Obviously a bit rusty after 10 years of launching boats and alot of the luxury bits no longer worked but it obviously did the job for him - he certainly could have opted for a Landcruiser.
                  No air suspension but it had HD springs.

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                  • gazza2006au
                    Ausfish Addict

                    • Dec 2006
                    • 9028

                    Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

                    The only springs available for my car are "low springs" on the rear also there is only one air bag suspension kit for my car on ebay

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                    • stevej
                      Ausfish Platinum Member

                      • Feb 2007
                      • 2456

                      Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

                      Why do you insist on using ebay for everything
                      ring Lovell or king springs ask the part number and your nearest supplier

                      kings made springs up for me for my 1965 Ford I’m sure they will make you some for a Ford falcon
                      ring them up and they will deliver them to you

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                      • gazza2006au
                        Ausfish Addict

                        • Dec 2006
                        • 9028

                        Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

                        Steve i shop on ebay because it has everything i need i can shop at my own convienience,you may not like ebay thats your choice but dont tell me where to shop

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                        • stevej
                          Ausfish Platinum Member

                          • Feb 2007
                          • 2456

                          Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

                          Don’t read into to it too much i didn’t say don’t shop there.

                          focus on the positives in the post: yes you can get heavy duty springs for your car
                          Ebay not having something doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist

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                          • ericcs
                            Ausfish Gold Member

                            • Jun 2005
                            • 700

                            Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

                            Originally posted by gazza2006au View Post
                            Steve i shop on ebay because it has everything i need i can shop at my own convienience,you may not like ebay thats your choice but dont tell me where to shop
                            if they don't have the right springs, then clearly ebay doesn't have everything you need!

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                            • gazza2006au
                              Ausfish Addict

                              • Dec 2006
                              • 9028

                              Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

                              Harder springs mean the car will ride hard when im not towing i would rather the car stay stock as it was designed and use the air bags for the best ride towing and not towing

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                              • gazza2006au
                                Ausfish Addict

                                • Dec 2006
                                • 9028

                                Re: I would love to take this on, Big Huntsman

                                I called pedders suspension they do 2 different springs for my car,1 a heavy duty spring, 2 a heavy duty 20mm raised spring

                                The HD stock height springs are $230 a set much cheaper than buying the air bags the bloke said there shouldnt be any sag with 200kg ball weight

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