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    Your very own personal Artificial Reef..

    I'm sure we have all thought about it...

    I sure know I have..
    This poor bloke is certainly paying the price for it though...

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07-...reef/100291800

    What do you guys think about this..?

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    Assuming the guy removed contaminates - which he probably didn't if he's using the FAD as an excuse to dump rubbish - but we'll never know - then no problemo....but of course the prawn trawlers are up in arms because they now have a net hazard in their decimated net friendly scrape grounds. I do think if he was genuinely interested in creating artificial reefs, he'd use better materials.
    After the last big Brisbane floods, tons of stuff was dumped in the bay by barge...a mate told me he had GPS marks for the locations to revisit later, well now really. This would be bits of boardwalk and ferry terminal....but I imagine away from the prawning grounds.
    End of the day though, not being a Marine Biologist, is dumping FAD stuff in Moreton Bay which is by and large devoid of structure sustaining an ecosystem or changing it?
    I know the story at hand is not Moreton Bay but I went on a Wild Turkey tangent. Apologies.

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    I take it you're not a fan of Prawning?

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    Yes - we have probably all thought about it ...... but in the end this is just an illegal dumping - the practice was made illegal for a good reason . imagine if a carte blanche approach was taken , it would just be used as an excuse to get rid of waste ...... as no doubt this was ( I'd imagine the cost of dumping a boat wouldn't be cheap).

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    Meh... everyone needs to make a living and most people like prawns. I spent some time on a trawler in the 80's....makes us casuals throwing back undersize fish or female crabs seem silly.
    Everything in the net was pretty much dead and the following sharks took anything that got thrown off the back.

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    Re: Your very own personal Artificial Reef..

    The practice of creating your own "artificial reef" has been popular in a lot of places for a long time. Particularly relevant in ground without a lot of hard structure. There are more than a few junk piles in the shallows off Carnarvon, accumulations of stuff people have been dropping for years apparently, locations naturally a closely guarded secret. The best one, result of an accidental sinking, is the Lady Joyous( known locally as the Lady Joyce, cos they didn't know it before it sank, and mispronunciation has become established :-) ) Was a prawn trawler But everyone knows where that is.

    A small boat like that probably has very little value as an artificial reef by itself, and may not even stay where it is dropped; northerly storms can rage down that gulf, and would likely move it anyway, as it was only in 10 metres of water.

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    Re: Your very own personal Artificial Reef..

    fished with an old fella who demolished a very large shed made from besa concrete blocks, every time he went fishing he would drop 10 or so at the same spot
    whole shed went in by the end

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    From South Australia originally before moving to Queensland. I know of, and have fished some exceptional artificial reefs made up of mostly tyres that were dumped by some locals. Their argument was that the government at the time did the same in lots of areas in South Australia so no harm done……..
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    Re: Your very own personal Artificial Reef..

    Quote Originally Posted by Noelm View Post
    I take it you're not a fan of Prawning?
    yeah never been a fan of dragging the seafloor back and forth and killing everything in its path including seagrass.....and a shellfish allergy prevents me from being a hypocrite...

    Quote Originally Posted by NAGG View Post
    Yes - we have probably all thought about it ...... but in the end this is just an illegal dumping - the practice was made illegal for a good reason . imagine if a carte blanche approach was taken , it would just be used as an excuse to get rid of waste ...... as no doubt this was ( I'd imagine the cost of dumping a boat wouldn't be cheap).

    Chris
    Cant argue with that..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealPoMo View Post
    Meh... everyone needs to make a living and most people like prawns. I spent some time on a trawler in the 80's....makes us casuals throwing back undersize fish or female crabs seem silly.
    Everything in the net was pretty much dead and the following sharks took anything that got thrown off the back.

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    When we first moved to Mission beach 20 odd years back we lived right on the beach and at times in the season we would would watch the lights of a small fleet of trawlers just going back and forth seemingly all night between the beach and Dunk island .....then going for a beach walk in the morning all along the high tide mark would be a trail of all manner of dead creatures...millions of fish and other crustaceans over kilometers of formerly pristine beach..then the stench would start and go on for as long as the trawlers were there...

    Fortunately 20 years back it was stopped in our immediate area...

    Quote Originally Posted by ranmar850 View Post

    A small boat like that probably has very little value as an artificial reef by itself, and may not even stay where it is dropped; northerly storms can rage down that gulf, and would likely move it anyway, as it was only in 10 metres of water.
    You might be surprised...it doesnt much of a lump to start its own little ecosystem.....and the cops found the location by searching the blokes GPS for the mark so it was still there a couple of years later and if you look at some of the underwater video footage you can see the baitfish milling around so it was starting to create habitat..

    Quote Originally Posted by stevej View Post
    fished with an old fella who demolished a very large shed made from besa concrete blocks, every time he went fishing he would drop 10 or so at the same spot
    whole shed went in by the end
    The blocks would make a pretty solid start to a reef...

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    Re: Your very own personal Artificial Reef..

    I know guys on Fraser Island who used to get the barrier mesh used in road works and roll it up about 6 foot long, get a besser block, tie a solid piece of rope to it and thread it through the mesh and attach a float at the other end. They would take 4 out at a time and drop them near a reef which they'd checked previously and drop them in a square pattern about 10 metres apart. I knew of one spot and checked it out about 6 months after they'd dropped it, there was certainly a lot of fish life around that group of 4 arti's, mostly juveniles but no doubt that would change over time. I'm told that 2 years later they were still there and some decent fish were pulled of them

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    I got told about a guy that takes a shopping trolley out whenever he goes out and has made a few spots and gets good fish from them.


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    At one stage Melbourne had the three W bays to fish...Westernport...Welshpool ...and the Westinghouse....formerly known as Port Phillip Bay...

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