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    Rod for XOS spanish on baits

    Last trip we got dusted more times than I care to remember by XOS spanish macks. Got spooled twice and I'm not in a hurry to have it happen again. Likely stepping up to a Penn Slammer III 6500 or a 2020 Saragossa SWA 10000 but not idea what rod to put it on. There are Live Fibres at 7ft but only 10-15 kg so doesn't seem quite enough. Local tackle store does a live fibre custom 30-60 lb but only at 6ft or 6'6". Not willing to pay for a Venom for this purpose. Fingered the Penn Ocean Assassin but didn't like it.

    So, any suggestions on what to get?

    Thanks
    Craig

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    Re: Rod for XOS spanish on baits

    Overhead reel, mate....

    Better for trolling as well.

    We use eggbeaters for jigging or tossing lures but overheads for light sportsfishing type stuff..

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    Sabre 655XXH will definitely be enough rod for them......might be able to find one in the second hand stores guaranteed not to break.
    It's a short stroker that will knock any fish over quickly.
    Jack.

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    Re: Rod for XOS spanish on baits

    Quote Originally Posted by disorderly View Post
    Overhead reel, mate....

    Better for trolling as well.

    We use eggbeaters for jigging or tossing lures but overheads for light sportsfishing type stuff..
    I love my overheads but was thinking spin for easy casting. Local tackle guy suggested Shimano speedmaster is the best value at the moment.in overheads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tunaticer View Post
    Sabre 655XXH will definitely be enough rod for them......might be able to find one in the second hand stores guaranteed not to break.
    It's a short stroker that will knock any fish over quickly.
    Not convinced on strokers. Trying to get around the bait board and outboard with a short jigging rod when your a midget like me is bloody hard, I reckon a stroker would be the same.

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    Sure they were Spanish? They usually have a couple of good runs and they are done, wahoo are a different story
    Mercury 115ct going strong😁

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    A budget conscious option may be the Shimano Maikuro 722SW. 10-24kg. For a cheap rod they seem ok.

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    Also some options from the Ugly Stick range I've got a USG-BWS702H 2 piece. It's only 10-20 kg rated but it has some grunt down low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
    I love my overheads but was thinking spin for easy casting. Local tackle guy suggested Shimano speedmaster is the best value at the moment.in overheads.
    Not a Talica but at half the price they look alright..

    I'll probably try a speedmaster next and leave my bulky pair of Tyrnos for just trolling..

    The only time I ever got spooled on an overhead was on my Calcutta when a White headed sea eagle grabbed a livie ....

    Man, you should have heard that reel scream....by the time I got up and got the rod out of the holder, the reel was empty..

    Maybe its just a personal thing but I prefer overheads for live baiting or floating pillies for pelagic fish ....but yeah a spin reel is easier to cast in a boat and easier for the kids to manage....

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    Re: Rod for XOS spanish on baits

    Quote Originally Posted by CT View Post
    Last trip we got dusted more times than I care to remember by XOS spanish macks. Got spooled twice and I'm not in a hurry to have it happen again. Likely stepping up to a Penn Slammer III 6500 or a 2020 Saragossa SWA 10000 but not idea what rod to put it on. There are Live Fibres at 7ft but only 10-15 kg so doesn't seem quite enough. Local tackle store does a live fibre custom 30-60 lb but only at 6ft or 6'6". Not willing to pay for a Venom for this purpose. Fingered the Penn Ocean Assassin but didn't like it.

    So, any suggestions on what to get?

    Thanks
    Craig
    If you want to use a spinning reel, have a look at the Shimano Anthem SW rods ranging in length from 1.54m to 2.43m and 20-30lb up to PE8-10 depending on the rod. Price is from $240-350 depending on where you buy it and if it is on special or not. I think that Dinga have them on sale at the moment. I bought the PE8-10 7'9" 2 piece for GT popping and put a Penn Spinfisher SSV8500LL on it. I had a look at about 6-7 different rods at Tackle World Lawnton and it was the only one that I liked, as in, it has a large enough first guide which was far enough away from the blank and also from the reel itself, to stop the guide line slap coming off a largish reel, so should be able to cast further than the others or you could use it to float line or balloon fish off it.

    https://www.dinga.com.au/shimano-ant...ries-rods.html

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    Re: Rod for XOS spanish on baits

    Quote Originally Posted by scottar View Post
    Also some options from the Ugly Stick range I've got a USG-BWS702H 2 piece. It's only 10-20 kg rated but it has some grunt down low.
    I also have one of those and you would be hard pressed to break that Ugly Stik. I actually removed the guides on mine and rebound it into an overhead rod.

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    Have an old Silstar 7,something Rod i built in mt previouse life coupled with an Abu 10000 loaded with 30lb mono and when i had my reef Boat the XOS Mackeral i pulled up with that Rod flicking Pillies was another thing!! , never thought Mackeral fought that hard really and caught some huge fish too..

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    Re: Rod for XOS spanish on baits

    Reels ~ I use old school TLD 30 2SP’s and Tyrnos 30 2 SP’s reels loaded with 24 kg nylon.
    Rods - 24 kg custom XT 50’s made by Wellington point marine many years ago are excellent , if you can find one . Other wise the good old live fibre 15 to 24kg ZWS 70 XJ aren’t too bad , but lack a bit of guts down low if your racing sharks.
    I love catching Spanish on big spinning reels like my big Saltiga SExtreme Maverick from Daiwa, but you have to use very thin 50 to 60 Lb braid like Ocea to get near enough line on them for big fish . Sounds like you’ve discovered 30kg plus Spanish empty spools very quickly . Suggest you go with an overhead reel with decent line capacity ie 400 to 500m of 24 kg or be prepared to chase them down on you motor to gain back some line.
    Keep Ya Tip UP
    Beast

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    Re: Rod for XOS spanish on baits

    I saw you mentioned venom rods
    did you discount them just because of price ?
    I have a venom swim bait rod on the way, awesome rod
    kiwi blanks rolled in Aus

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    Are the blanks available?

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