advice needed on separating a corroded FERRULE

[roz]

Could someone please pass on some help/advice on how to separate an old ferrule.

I've been given a nightmare rod repair.

A workmate has an old solid cane rod (not split cane) and has asked me if I could rebuild it. Of course I agreed not knowing what I would be up against.

Unlike a standard rod, this is as crooked as a dog's hind leg. The original guides..except for one were missing, luckily I had some old matching guides inclusive of a tip that fitted. The fore grip and rear grips were turned out on a lathe, the grooves were full of old mud and varnish which I have now cleaned out and painted over with a proper rod finish, two coats.

Have re glued on the reel seat plus other fittings. The last remaining job is to separate the ferrule.
As far as I know the rod was owned and made by this person's grandfather, so I am doing my best to save and clean the fittings, the ferrule is sending me barking MAD!!! I can't separate it. I have tried, feeding it WD40 with no luck, heat... no luck there, brute force.. no luck. Must add I had no trouble removing the ferrule from the rod, further, I would like to retain the original fitting if at all possible.
Could anyone throw a few ideas please.

Much appreciated
Cheers Roz

[scottar]

Heat is your best friend for seperating frozen metal fittings - only heating the outer part so it expands quicker than the inner. Only drama in this situation is that the required amount may well do other damage. You could try a better grade of penetrant - something like "Yield" (pricey though) - one treatment may not be sufficient with multiple applications over a period of time required but in my experience nothing beats thermal expansion.

[Dignity]

I boiled one onceout of sheer frustration for zbout 10mins after trying most everything else and it came apart though it helps if you have 2 sets if hands. Good luck in your endeavours.

[Dignity]

Heat is your best friend for seperating frozen metal fittings - only heating the outer part so it expands quicker than the inner. Only drama in this situation is that the required amount may well do other damage. You could try a better grade of penetrant - something like "Yield" (pricey though) - one treatment may not be sufficient with multiple applications over a period of time required but in my experience nothing beats thermal expansion.

Yield is great on rusty bits but this ferrule I would wager is brass and it won't work well.

[roz]

thanks for your reply. The ferrule is not brass, some sort of alloy at a guess, (silver in colour) however the corrosion has a green tinge so there may be some brass included??? after years of working in a lab my science knowledge involves chemistry...physical & chemical testing but nothing to do with metals...
Will give your advice another try.
Thanks heaps.
Roz

[roz]

Will do.
The owner of the rod will likely pay for the Yield, on the other hand I may use it again on my stuff.
Thanks heaps for the reply.
Roz

[roz]

Must add, a friend did suggest soaking the ferrule in petrol.
Has anyone tried that with success??

[scottar]

Have used diesel on tug tow pins that were seized solid to the point the hydraulics wouldn't lift them from their housing so petrol may work????

[roz]

Thanks guys
I eventually gave up, I tried everything that was suggested without a result. I managed to get a similar ferrule for $20, I had to sand back some of the cane rods surface to allow for a working amount of epoxy to take effect.
They were so happy with the result they wanted to put the rod on their wall, I said "no way" I didn't go to all that trouble for it to collect dust... they were worried about it breaking due to its age, I responded tell them to just use it for bream and whiting, to adjust the drag on the reel to produce little resistance.. they get it.

Again, thanx heaps.
Cheers Roz