You forgot silver... or doesn't anything rhyme with that?? [emoji1]Originally Posted by stang69
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You forgot silver... or doesn't anything rhyme with that?? [emoji1]
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Obviously a massive E-Tec G2 fan but not so much the new white Yammy's, Zuk's and Merc's.Oh Look - Honda come in white as well now.
and the "Knocker of the year award" goes to ........
Sorry mate, didn't read where you were from, good luck anyways.
what a sad sad AB
The truth hurts, as the white motor sputters and spurts, and the repair bill really hurts, costs so much you lose your shirts.
Stang69 clearly prefers his upside down car motors!
BRP started manufacturing in 2002. The first of the BRP engines (MY2003 range) were branded Ficht Ram Injection. The next year BRP dumped the name and went with "Direct Injection". then developed the ETEC's off this platform (albeit had the R&D budget to get it right). The early 98 - 99 Fichts were rushed to market as they were the first DI two stroke. They did have reliability issues. OMC had actually knocked back Orbital in the mid 90's (later OptiMax) to go with the German 'Ficht' technology.
The BRP Fichts were good engines.
yep, Mine was the first year of the "direct Injection " label.
Alan Downes Kept it humming along like new.
When traded with 780 odd hours the compressions were all almost identical and acceptable.
The Crap trade had to do with their name , and i think the boat show deal on the new motor.
BRP had the budget to get the marketing right. The engineering and manufacturing on the other hand, not so much...
Direct injection 2 strokes are a lot like communism. In theory it seems like a good idea, but in practice.......
lol, Do you actually read what you write?,
Maybe you should email BRP and tell them to stop making there motors because you obviously no a lot more then a Multi Billion Dollar Company..
But then again from what i have seen if you don't have a Yamaha or a Fibreglass boat then there just crap, I'm guessing you have the best boat ever made and is the reason why you own it..
Its quite amazing how narrow minded some people can be.
560c Bar Crusher "Overtime"
In manufacturing there are 2 types of companies.
Engineering based, and marketing based. I'll let you decide which category the white motors fall under.
Interesting comment when you look at what BRP engineers have developed in the new G2 (for a start, it's the most fuel efficient outboard available)..
BRP has the most modern, technologically advanced dedicated outboard manufacturing facility in the world. And if you happen to review the accounts of all major engine manufacturers, BRP has the highest funded engineering team, period, with an R&D spend of almost double some of its competitors. But again, I (like many others buying them) must be falling for their comparatively miserly global marketing spend...!
They probably have the biggest R&D spend, simply because they are trying to perfect something new, all the other makers have all but dropped their effort in that type of engine, and are staying with already developed and proven "old fashioned" technology that doesn't need a huge cash injection to develop (maybe)
Over the past say 11 years I have watched interestingly the attitudes of people on the various forums. Primarily Fishnet and here as well as others. So many single minded views that discard the views of others. Whether its: Aluminium v fibreglass, mono v multi hull, 2 or 4 stroke, jet-skis have no right to the water v boats do, sail boats v powerboats and it goes on and on and on......
Is it ignorance or arrogance? Is it redneck thinking? A pissing contest? What makes people incapable of accepting the personal decisions that others make and feel the need to put others down for their decisions? And by extension push their own agenda for which is better, usually based on very limited exposure to real knowledge of the product range overall? If you like DI 2 strokes then that's great! If you like 4 strokes then that's equally great! Likewise for choice of hull material or configuration or mode of transport and all else is great! Diverse experience is valuable along with a balanced and unbiased perspective.
Regarding the current topic its worth noting that Evinrude began in 1907! and Johnson in 1913! That's 109 yrs old and 87ish yrs old respectively. An awesome contribution to the outboard industry for over a century! Unfortunately because OMC got the original formula wrong for the Ficht engines the lasting legacy of those engines is low value and a century old company's reputation ruined somewhat. So as others have said when it comes to valuing the rig overall the engine unfortunately needs to be considered of extremely low value by comparison to other brands, despite how reliable this engine may be.
Yep, that's just a fact of life I guess, right or wrong, the poor old FICHT gets a raw deal, and that stigma sticks to all incantations of it, I owned a pair of FICHTS for a long time with very little trouble, owned plenty of Mercs, from the old tower of power, to a couple of tiller steers, plus various OMC motors, including a pair of 55HP on a Seafarer Viking, to a pair of 70's on an Aluminium cat, and a pair of 120's on a glass cat, plus a pair pf 90 2 stroke Yamahas on another cat, currently own a 50 tiller steer Yamaha 4 stroke, and a couple of 90 Suzukies, and to be 100% honest, can't say that I have had major dramas with any of those motors.
I hear ya Noel.
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