Very promising results, can I ask what the motor set you back Ive loosely be told $113 per hp or $34k.... doesn't sound so bad when you say $113 per hp
Very promising results, can I ask what the motor set you back Ive loosely be told $113 per hp or $34k.... doesn't sound so bad when you say $113 per hp
True Brendon
But two 200HP slightly exceeds the max allowed. A couple of G2 115 HPs would peak my interest or HO G2s even more so if they ever happen.
My 20" Rakers might even go straight on but you would have to give the RX 4s a run to be sure,
Cheers
Chimo
Motor was $33 fully fitted, add the $27 traded up for the wife's car, plus the traded up Min kotta and new sounder and I'm north of $65. I did get $12 for the yammy so eases the pain a little.. I did actually look at 2 150's but transom is not capable of taking twin motors. Going for a fish "as is Friday" and back to the dealer when the new min kotta gets here (Monday or Tuesday) and then will drop the motor an inch or so.
Great results KC. The biggest surprise with the G2 is its fuel consumption - hard to believe at first. The 200HO on the SF Venom has over 200 hours on it fault free now. Starts first time. And gees they run hard and sound good.
Yep. Fuel consumption is looking the goods and was a major driver for the upgrade. Yammy was just using too much, and not so much a $$ issue but it was killing me with lack of range. 400 litres under the floor and having to worry about how wide I could run on a day trip is just ridiculous. As stated, not really a problem with the motor, more so too much boat for a 250 4 banger, no matter what breed. The Gen 2 etecs have gone to a whole new level and the results I got today are just a taste of what I will get when I am getting full traction. I am convinced I will get 50 k's at 40 lph, or maybe 42 lph and see how the speed/consumption curve works up from there. Don't mind burning more to get an extra 8 to 10 k's. Makes a big fishing time difference running 150 k's out if I get 10 k's an hour extra. Regardless of where this beds down I am looking at a minimum $150 and perhaps $200 a day, times as many as 50 days a year fuel savings....gotta be happy with that. At that rate I will be able to buy the wife a new car every 3 years, or not!
just remember there's XD100 to buy...
Yep. 5 hours run time will burn 1.5 litres. About $25 of XD 100 to save at least $150 in fuel. I can live with that. will burn 1/3 litre of oil per hour at 4200 RPM.
I guess the 6m $ question is how good will the figures get once the G2 setup is all tweaked, and the donk run-in, and will it get you an extra ‘50+HP worth of more speed’ over and above your original WOT 42kn when you initially got the boat Kev?
Even if the 42kn you originally posted about was 42mph (possible, given you could only get 37mph recently??), it means you should get at least 46mph at WOT with the G2 (assuming the 42 was average GPS speed), so your hopeful high cruise speed should be easily achievable based on that. Will all come down to what juice she sucks at that high speed. I guess we'll all have to wait for some stats once she's run in and the high-oil dosing period drops.
Cheers
Brendon
Interesting comparison. Good to see that no boats were drowned this time!
https://www.tradeboats.com.au/tradea...c-200-g1-vs-g2
Question is Pete, are they saying the G2's are really that good.... or are they saying the G1's are really that bad...? [emoji1]Originally Posted by Chimo
Taking the economy numbers on face value there seem's to be a huge difference, nearly 100% improvement at both revs... but... when you really look at the numbers their math seems out! Well, a bit out for the 2nd set of G1 figures when you check!!
Economy figures should be 1.2, 2.0, 1.4, 2.1 as you go down the table, correct to 1.d.p. Still, a vast improvement, but you would think they would get their calcs right!
What would have really been nice would be to see the comparison over the entire rev range, and, to see the torque curves they talk about!
Cheers
i hope you're right. certainly the g1's particulary in the large hp were piggish with it.
The no servicing certainly hopes to pay for it also.
I have a v4 ficht and it likes the xd50, probably around 60:1but 50:1 under heavy load. I buy the oil in 20l drums, work out the $ per litre and add it on whenever i am sharing fuel.
More like 2.9L Kev.
From what I recall from THT posts from guys with G2 300's, they average around 70:1. Assuming you get your 40L/h @ 50k's, oil consumption for 5hrs will be 40/70 x 5 = 2.9L.
However if there are 4hrs of trolling in the 5, average will obviously be a higher ratio/less oil used.
Cheers
Yeah so at $20 a litre (I think) for xd100 which is the most expensive oil not insignificant but offset by no expensive service every year. Best bet is to buy it as cheap as you can find it In advance so you don't end up getting raped
Nice little first run today, made much better by 5 nice Spanish mackerel and a whopping big trout that grabbed a mack bait. Sloppy conditions and pushed the big tide both ways. Did 90 k's on 83 litres and re-topped oil to check and used 1 litre on the dot. Given I am in run in and oil usage is apparently higher for the first 50 hours or so I am ok. Motor is cavitating badly so expecting significant improvements when engine is lowered next week. Figured I saved about $85 in fuel, offset by $20 in oil. Fair swap =). Having another go tomorrow and conditions are supposed to be 10 knot variable.
Have a combined 2 day trip log. Didn't reset before second day (whoops) but still interesting numbers so far. Yesterday was a bit better sea conditions but still 15 knots and far from calm. 173 ks total for the 2 days. A fair bit of that trolling 151 litres of fuel. 1.8 litres of oil. Boat is back in the shed now until motor is lowered on (hopefully) Tuesday. Min kotta to be fitted same day so this will add a bit of weight but not significant as all the batteries are already installed. Boat feels and rides great. Noticeably lower comfortable planning speed but the prop slip is very obvious. Shot of gauges was pushing into 2 knots of current.
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