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  1. #61

    Re: E-tec Gen 2 300hp

    OMG. How is this for clean rigging. That's the lot. Power, throttle, gears, trim and steering, all in those 4 wires. Nothing laying in the well, just 1 tube and open space.
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  2. #62

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    This worries me a little. The 1kw transducer for the Furuno 588 is a huge brick of a thing and will maybe throw some serious spray. Have already decided, subject to sea trails, to raise it above planning waterline and use it at troll speed only and keep using the Lowrance, with much smaller and hydrodynamic shaped transducer as the high speed sounder. Nothing wrong with the lowrance bottom read, just its fish showing detail is very poor compared to the furunos (IMO)
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  3. #63
    Ausfish Platinum Member ozynorts's Avatar
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    Re: E-tec Gen 2 300hp

    Quote Originally Posted by kc View Post
    This worries me a little. The 1kw transducer for the Furuno 588 is a huge brick of a thing and will maybe throw some serious spray. Have already decided, subject to sea trails, to raise it above planning waterline and use it at troll speed only and keep using the Lowrance, with much smaller and hydrodynamic shaped transducer as the high speed sounder. Nothing wrong with the lowrance bottom read, just its fish showing detail is very poor compared to the furunos (IMO)
    Or you could get a spray deflector for it. I had spray issues with my transducer and the deflector fixed it.
    I got one of these but not sure if it would be big enough for that transducer. The good thing about this one was I could use the same holes as my transducer for mounting.
    https://www.whitworths.com.au/main_i...AbsolutePage=1
    There is one like this that is bigger but may require more holes to be drilled....
    http://www.chsmith.com.au/Products/B...er-Covers.html
    Remember to always log on before heading offshore.

  4. #64

    Re: E-tec Gen 2 300hp

    Quote Originally Posted by gofishin View Post
    Well unless you always go out with 4 other blokes and 200kg of ice, then come home with another 200kg of fish .
    Cheers
    Even then it would be decisively average for that size rig.............I get better from the E-Tec now. It's got to be units back to front or a set up issue surely.

  5. #65
    Ausfish Platinum Member
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    Re: E-tec Gen 2 300hp

    Yeah Scotty, i should have said 400kg + 400kg probably hey .

    I am sure it is units wrong way round. I couldn't see how it could possibly be 1.3L/km on that size boat with that donk... the 4.2's have better economy than the 3.3's too.

    I am still getting over Kev's (kc's) bad figures and I have the same donk (as he had) on a similar size glass boat, albeit with a shallower 20 deg deadrise, but being glass would be a lot easier to push even with the same deadrise.

    Worst I have ever got from an overnight 1770 trip with 3 or 4 blokes and plenty of ice/gear/weight and shitty conditions at least one day was 0.97km/L, and that was the only time I have ever gone under unity. These overnighters would be up to around 250-270k's on the Yam Trip Log, and 140-150nm on the GPS Trip Log (which obviously includes drifts).

    I guess we will find out soon enough how much Kev's boat had to do with the bad figures.
    Cheers

  6. #66

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    I have over 200 hours of numbers on my boat and have become convinced that the actual boat itself is part of the problem. They flex. It makes for a great but inefficent ride. The big Tupperware boats are never going to be as clear and slick through the water as a glass boat, but it is a trade off I am happy to cop, if I can get the numbers I am hoping the big Gen 2 will give me. All about the extra torque and lift of the RX 4 prop. This would appear to be the first of these unusual and fairly rare big buggers in the world, ever fitted with this engine so it is a "suck it and see" situation. I was not at all unhappy with the big Yammy as a motor. Nothing wrong with it. Just the slow steady growl of a 4 stroke trying to push a square peg into a round hole. I expect the 2 stroke bark of the etec to just crack straight through the softness of the hull. In any case, I will know on Tuesday. It is the biggest spend on a boat I have every had, made so in large part because I had to buy the missus a new car as part of the softening up process =). If this doesn't work, nothing will and I will just get used to big fuel bills and less range than I expect.

  7. #67
    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: E-tec Gen 2 300hp

    with only 4 cables Is the steering electric? how does it work with Auto Pilot systems? probably easier I presume with no hydraulic lines

  8. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryangler View Post
    with only 4 cables Is the steering electric? how does it work with Auto Pilot systems? probably easier I presume with no hydraulic lines
    It's my understanding that the steering is a power assisted hydraulic system. The hoses from the original helm will be in the rigging tube somewhere as well. There is some consideration needs to be given to hydraulic pressure as too higher pressure can apparently damage the system - there are limiting valves available to use with systems that generate too much pressure. An autopilot fits just as it would on any "conventional" system by teeing into the lines. The tricky part may be finding a linkage to hook a rudder reference unit to if the particular pilot requires it. Thankfully the manufacturers are finally seeming to be able to get pilots without a feedback to steer properly - something that was a challenge for a long time.

  9. #69
    Ausfish Bronze Member
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    Re: E-tec Gen 2 300hp

    So similar to the verado system except the power assist pump is under the cowling

  10. #70

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    Pretty much.

  11. #71

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    Control binicle in. Really compact with nice solid feel to it. Stainless mounted. Not much more going on now of any interest till the reconfigured dash and electronics go in Monday. Sea trials set for Tuesday.
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  12. #72

    Re: E-tec Gen 2 300hp

    Quote Originally Posted by scottar View Post
    Km/litre or Litres / km Nick ?
    Last trip was 80 miles (land miles) 129 litres on the gauges, So not quite the figures I quoted. This includes engine running while checking drift etc. 4 blokes on board and we had it pinned on the way home. So basically 1 Liter/ Km. There definitely isn't 200Kg of fish coming home!!!

  13. #73

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    I have the same transducer and after the first water test I had a spay deflector welded on. Sounds at full speed and no problem with water getting near the air intakes now.

  14. #74

    Re: E-tec Gen 2 300hp

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick H View Post
    Last trip was 80 miles (land miles) 129 litres on the gauges, So not quite the figures I quoted. This includes engine running while checking drift etc. 4 blokes on board and we had it pinned on the way home. So basically 1 Liter/ Km. There definitely isn't 200Kg of fish coming home!!!
    That's a lot closer to the money Nick you should be able better it a bit by playing with your set up would have thought unless you are running heavy.

  15. #75

    Re: E-tec Gen 2 300hp

    Nice the hear Nick. I will see how sea trails go with the transducer before I commit to lifting it above planning line and just using it as a troll speed transducer. Spray deflector is clearly an option as well. Will see. I love the GPS backtracking/ spot marking facility on the Lowrance in any case so would in all likelihood prefer it at speed to the Furuno as a high speed sounder. Will just have to see. Note your numbers with a fairly heavy load on an 80 mile run at near enough 1 litre per kilometre. I will try to convert my thinking to these measurements as talking litres and miles is confusing. With 2 years of consistent numbers, and lots of trail and changes I am at 1.45 litres per kilometre with the 250 yammy. Lets just see what the etec manages.

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