Thanks gofishin, and yes the fuel save is an overestimation and would be based on all my hours at cruise speed but I do a lot of long runs. Most of my days are close to 6 hours runs 70 plus miles each way plus a bit of running around out there,and not much trolling but even if I can save $5K a year the motor pays off in fuel save alone while still under warrantee (buy prices less what I got for the yammy). The bracket extender on the back was something I had manufactured locally tinkering with the yammy and trying to get performance, Boat came with 30 inch leg yammy which was buried deep in the water and considered one of the potential performance issues but raising it didn't help much. That extension is coming off and fitting the etec with 25 inch leg on original transom mounts. Very seldom ran the yammy WOT and got those numbers off the net.but it is more the burn at 5100 cruise speed which was my issue and this burn was confirmed time and time again at the bowser. Carrying 400 litres under the floor and didn't feel safe running without at least 50 in jerry cans doing a wide trip. A very normal day of a 140 to 150 mile round trip had me running on fumes and the refills, logged as I tinkered with props, foils and heights ran between 340 and 390 litres a trip over a run of more than 20 trips. I guess this thread will die off now. I had hoped to find an ausfisher who had one but I will bump it back up when the re-fit starts with some photos and fuel/performance numbers. I should add I have nothing against the Yammy. I have a 60 hp 4 stroke on my creek boat and it is flawless and very cheap to run. I just think the big boat is underpowered with the 250 and having to work really hard in the upper quarter of its rev band is what has lead to the economy issues.