I tend to agree Dogtooth but don't hold your breath this country is too weak to do anything about it. hell we let pedophiles out of prison to rape more kids what hope do we have.
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I tend to agree Dogtooth but don't hold your breath this country is too weak to do anything about it. hell we let pedophiles out of prison to rape more kids what hope do we have.
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I don't begrudge a guy for keeping sharks for food.
I do not support culling programs of sharks.
I do not support glory hunting anf killing of sharks.
I don't mind catch and release.
Jack.
Originally Posted by Dogtoooth
i think you miss the point completely mate.
the Sharks are not coming into our play ground, we are going into theirs!
and I don't think that we have more of a problem now than we did in the 80's or 90's. We just have more people doing unsafe activities, at unsafe times.
Why Is it that it is mostly surfers that are bitten?
if it was a case of sharks on the hunt for human blood, wouldn't theg be taking all the foreign tourists that can't swim and splash around the shallows advertising a free feed?
and why are most attacks just a single bite, or "maul" as it is reported, it they wanted to eat them. Why didn't they.
Last edited by Lucky_Phill; 14-11-2015 at 09:48 PM. Reason: language from member
I think it's also a problem of our continued (but well regulated) competition with Sharks for their food source and not the accompanying reduction in sharks. Quite the opposite I think. We are continuing the "mow the lawn" as far as their food source but since Sharks were put on the "threatened species" list the number of large sharks has grown. They then need to look for other food sources as the number of sharks increases and the resultant biomass in their food sources doesn't.
Think of it the same way as the cane toad problem. The cane toads exploded once introduced and once the numbers of cane beetles reduced to nothing the toads simply moved onto other insects such as honey bees etc. If the number of sharks is increasing due to protection by their only apex predator (humans) and the food source isn't growing with it, of course they are going to look for alternatives.
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We need to breed more Orcas to kill the sharks - what could possibly go wronghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC8Wxfn5xFw
Not much beats going to the beach for a swim. Australian's love swimming on our public beaches it's free and refreshing and a tradition. A 4m Tiger, White, Whaler or Bull shark doesn't belong on beaches while people are swimming or surfing. Let's get that straight for some simple people out there. Since " 1962 " Queensland started the drum line program, from Cairns to the Gold Coast peppering baited lines along the coast just offshore near popular beaches. The average rate of shark attacks hasn't dropped or risen since 1962 when the program started, killing thousands of man eating sharks in the progress. The population in Queensland has now exploded on our populated beaches but the attacks haven't risen much since 1962. So that tells you the program is working. We need a cull now purely because of mass population growth on our beaches, it is just crazy and the recent spike of shark attacks in summer on our beaches is out of control. Commercial shark fishermen need to concentrate culling offshore near heavy populated beached area's. So everyone after a swim or surf can get out of the water with no blood loss and go home safe to their loved ones.
" I have come to understand that I really do enjoy learning things the hard way "
I guess it might be prudent to get an idea on what people think a culling might mean! It does not mean every shark needs to be killed, regardless of size or species, and some sort of wholesale eradication will take place. Any sort of culling that could be undertaken would have to be controlled and scientifically accounted for, not just a free for all.
I guess it boils down to wether or not we want the ocean as our private swimming hole.If so,then by all means cull away.If not,then exercise some common sense and live with the risk.
Banshee, I can see where you are coming from, but, there are times when we need protection, the Ocean is not our own private swimming hole, but it is a valuable recreational resource, and as such, it is open to use to all people, if that means we need protection, then so be it, if that entails culling/netting/drum lines, then it has to be done.
They cut out my 1st comment beer hunter. What happened to freedom of speech in Australia. I'm sure they call this AUSFISH forum, AUS standing for Australia. I guess I offended some MEN on here. I just want to apologise to all the Men who got upset about my 1st comment. I agree Beer Hunter what hope do we have??
" I have come to understand that I really do enjoy learning things the hard way "
I'm not sure what you said that was offensive. I would like to know though just for interest sake.
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I’ve been spearing for over 20 years and have seen my fair share of sharks in the water. While it still gets the heart pumping I wouldn’t want that to change. I don’t believe shark numbers are on the increase world wide, far from it.
Sharks serve an important role in our lives and I don’t believe a handful of events should cause their death.
If you haven’t seen the documentary Shark Water, I can highly recommend it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0856008/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Here's a few excerpts from some articles..
The global picture is important, as we share 'our' great white sharks in Australia with the rest of the world, with sharks tracked travelling between South Africa and Australia and back. With such a precipitous decline, and the very slow growth and breeding rates of sharks, it is simply not possible for shark numbers to have increased dramatically since Australia protected them only 12 years ago. A female great white shark born in 1999 will only just be reaching maturity now and starting to breed in the coming years, and that is only if she and her mate have dodged numerous threats, such as those posed by commercial and recreational fishing and shark control nets on our east coast.
Despite all this, you may still be asking why we should save sharks. As apex predators, great white sharks sit at the top of the food chain and help to regulate the balance of life in the waters all around them. Research shows this massive depletion of sharks has negative and cascading effects throughout ocean ecosystems.
The oceans are the great white shark's environment and as humans continue to exploit this environment more and more, it often results in tragedy. As sharks' and man's worlds collide, we need to respect these events as rarities, in the full knowledge of their infrequency. Surely a healthy ocean is something we all want and that means we need to protect our great white sharks.
- As the apex predators of the oceans, the role of sharks is to keep other marine life in healthy balance and to regulate the oceans.
- The prospect of a food chain minus its apex predators may mean the end of the line for many more species.
- Sharks have widespread global distribution, are highly migratory and play a vital role in maintaining the health of ocean ecosystems.
- Sharks are a critical component in an ecosystem that provides 1/3 of our world with food, produces more oxygen than all the rainforests combined, removes half of the atmosphere’s manmade carbon dioxide (greenhouse gas), and controls our planet’s temperature and weather.
- The oceans are the most important ecosystem on the planet, and our best defense against global warming, containing life that absorbs most of the carbon dioxide (global warming gas) that we put into the atmosphere, converting it into a large percentage of the oxygen we breathe.
- Sharks play a vital role at the top of the food chain by maintaining balance in the oceans. Destroying shark populations could destroy our oceans and our life support system.
- We have already witnessed localized collapses of fisheries and ecosystems due to the removal of sharks, including the scallop fisheries in Chesapeake Bay, the coral reefs in Belize and the cod in New England.
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I am very anti culling sharks.
I haven't killed a shark in 30 years.
I do not think they are more numerous now than before.
To be honest if I was taken by a shark, so be it, i don't give a shit, but I sure as hell don't want one shark harmed in revenge over another death.
Jack.
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