help with size/weight

[KEMEL K]

Hi all,
after some info on weights of the larger model hard top plate boats 7m+ that some of you guys currently run. Looking to start build of new boat soon but would like to keep weight as close to the 3.5t the cruiser can (legally) tow. Dont know "outwide" but this is the sort of rig im talking about , looking at his build thread.( not with his level of fit out though) and also will only run single engine. Any one with personal expirence regarding the APX weight of their plate hard top alloy boat on the trailer heading to ramp would be greatly apperciated, with a few details of engines, fuel load, etc now if your not keen to post the weight of your rig with details on a public forum please please pm me. Currently run a 7.4m c.c. Plate and dont want to down size from that length.

[gofishin]

Have you had a look at this thread...
http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...d.php?t=199900
Awesome boat and built with the 3.5t limit in mind. Can't recall if this was achieved with full tanks etc but pretty impressive regardless.

Outwide is indeed a big girl, with lots of good gear, and with twins etc I would not think she would be in the 3.5t class ready-2-go. Mick does come on here so I am sure he will let you know one way or the other.

Another is Moejoes, not actually sure what size and engine setup but Rob will let you know too I would think.

Also another impressive build thread a while back, think it was called OMG, or maybe that was the builder(?). Think there were some big platey weights in that thread too.
Cheers
Brendon


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Any_Weather]

G'day Kemel, mate I had a 7.8m Riptide built at the end of last year and once completed I put it over a weighbridge totally dry with nothing other than anchor rope. That is no chain, anchor, sinkers, or anything else at all and totally dry. It weighed 3320kg so that only gives me 180kg of gear which isn't hard to get. I carry 540lt of fuel and 150lt of water of which neither can carry anything when being towed. That in itself can become tough. It is 6mm bottom and 4mm sides running twin 175hp Suzukis and sits on a full alloy trailer.I have a build thread on here somewhere also.
Cheers
Lee

[KEMEL K]

yeah tar Brandon, seen that one. wont have any wear near that sort of fit out so if the moda boat is under 3.5 ill be sweet and looking at a7.8m!!! think I have read on here somewhere re moejoes 8m running twins like outwide????? so keen to know his weight??
KEV

[KEMEL K]

yeah right thanks Lee exactly the sort of info I am chasing. do you pull her with the 200 in the pic? considering doing something very similar to your set up even have same colour 200 my self. may have to sacrifice size to bring weight down a bit.
thanks KEV

[scottar]

Also another impressive build thread a while back, think it was called OMG, or maybe that was the builder(?). Think there were some big platey weights in that thread too.
Cheers
Brendon


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

"OCD" Brendan. It's the B.I.L's rig. Pretty much right on 3.5 and he had to have a GVM upgrade on his Cruiser. Bloody nice bit of kit but it won't fit in my shed.

[gofishin]

Ahh, yeah that's right Scotty, OCD. I must have been thinking OMG when I saw it . Nice bit of kit.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Any_Weather]

Hi Kev, yeh mate I tow it with that cruiser and it does it no dramas at all. I don't tow it very often but as it stays near the water. I was hoping it would have ended up a couple of hundred kilos lighter and after talking to a lot of other owners of similar sized boats, they either did something extraordinary when building to reduce weight or they have just come up with a figure that keeps them happy because mine seems heavy compared with some others?
Short answer but, yes the cruiser ties it easily
Cheers
Lee

[KEMEL K]

"OCD" Brendan. It's the B.I.L's rig. Pretty much right on 3.5 and he had to have a GVM upgrade on his Cruiser. Bloody nice bit of kit but it won't fit in my shed.

Scotty, thanks for that. GVM upgrade sounds great!!how do you go about those never heard of it? only new to forum so not sure who bil is. upgrade to GVM sounds far cheaper than a f- truck/dodge to tow it around when so close to the mark.
tar KEV

[Moejoes]

yeah tar Brandon, seen that one. wont have any wear near that sort of fit out so if the moda boat is under 3.5 ill be sweet and looking at a7.8m!!! think I have read on here somewhere re moejoes 8m running twins like outwide????? so keen to know his weight??
KEV

Hi Kemel, Some useful info to help with your quest.
8 meter hull only when I completed the hot works came in at 1950kgs.
Gal. trailer came in at 900kgs completed. I had it engineered to 4500kgs as wanted it to last but registered it at 3500kgs thinking I'd be under after fitout.
Not to be. Came in at 3600kgs with 100 litres of fuel when I put it over the weigh bridge with everything pulled out of it .
Ended up being 3840kgs by the time I weighed everything back in ( Still no Fuel ) which was now a problem .
So I re registered the trailer to 4500kgs & bought a Chev. Costly but at least I'm legal & have insurance .
I'll post some pics later.
Cheers Rob

[KEMEL K]

Thanks Rob, great info there couple. Save couple hundred k on alloy trailer and couple hundred running single engine?? may just get me close enough, with no fuel but!!!! might have to chase down this GVM upgrade for the cruiser. May well be the answer?? I better go run current rig over weigh bridge might get a small shock I think!!! ill post pics of it if I can figure out how its done.

[Moejoes]

Don't even bother with the upgrade.
The 200 series cruiser total combined weight is 6850kgs, you cannot get this increased.
So 3350kgs total loaded weight for the cruiser & 3500kgs boat / trailer.
Cruiser by memory is 2700kgs empty so you can only load it up 650kgs ( people / fuel / luggage ).
You will down grade your tow capacity if you upgrade the GVM of the cruiser.
Upgrade cruiser GVM to 3550kgs means your boat / trailer can only be 3300kgs = 6850kgs ( You cannot exceed this combined weight ).
I looked at every option.
Hope this helps.

[gofishin]

Scotty, thanks for that. GVM upgrade sounds great!!how do you go about those never heard of it? only new to forum so not sure who bil is. upgrade to GVM sounds far cheaper than a f- truck/dodge to tow it around when so close to the mark.
tar KEV

Kev, have a read of this thread, it may have some helpful info ...
So you think you can tow 3.5t http://www.ausfish.com.au/vforum/sho...d.php?t=202306

A GVM upgrade will not allow you to tow more than 3.5t, it will just allow you to carry more people/load in the cruiser, or unload some weight from the boat into the cruiser.

Toyota don't specify a GCM, so unless you find someone that is qualified and willing to give you an increased 'Tow Rating' or put a GCM number on a compliance plate (that will suit your situation), it will be an f-truck etc.

Start with ARB and Lovells. There is another option Soulfish (Jason) mentioned to me a few years back - can't recall who though. He may chime in.
Cheers
Brendon




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Moejoes]

Some pics.
Probably see why I needed the Chev


Plate Boat 150810 005.jpgPlate Boat 081109 002.jpgPlate Boat Launch 130810 031.jpgPlate Boat Launch 130810 040.jpg

[Moejoes]

Cruiser towed it with ease but unfortunately didn't rate